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Canon kit lens: 18-55 vs 17-85

 
Nish-ZA
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Aug 18, 2011 07:23 |  #1

Hi All,

I am considering getting a Canon 60D and have seen two bundles from 2 suppliers...one with an 18-55 lens and the other with the 17-85 lens (at $430 more).

I shoot general stuff: family pics, travel, landscapes, wildlife.

Is the 17-85 lens worth the $430 more or should I get the 18-55 and save for something better? Any suggestions which?

Thank you.




  
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Aug 18, 2011 07:27 |  #2

Is it the 17-85 or the 15-85? The 17-85 is older, and I found image q less than the kit 18-55', if it is the 15-85' yes it is worth the extra$




  
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Aug 18, 2011 07:30 |  #3

Nish-ZA wrote in post #12956416 (external link)
Hi All,

I am considering getting a Canon 60D and have seen two bundles from 2 suppliers...one with an 18-55 lens and the other with the 17-85 lens (at $430 more).

I shoot general stuff: family pics, travel, landscapes, wildlife.

Is the 17-85 lens worth the $430 more or should I get the 18-55 and save for something better? Any suggestions which?

Thank you.

you can look at lens review comparison sites like http://www.photozone.d​e (external link)
and see that the 18-55IS is rated significantly higher in optical quality and price/performance than the 17-85.




  
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Aug 18, 2011 07:33 |  #4

thanks guys...it is the 17-85.




  
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Aug 18, 2011 08:06 |  #5

Nish-ZA wrote in post #12956446 (external link)
thanks guys...it is the 17-85.

Ok, it is defiantly not worth the extra money.




  
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Aug 18, 2011 08:12 |  #6

I own the 18-55 IS, and the 17-85. I personally prefer the 17-85 over the 18-55 IS. The focal range really came in handy, the AF was really nice. Image quality was acceptable in a trade-off vs. the 18-55

Having said that, no way would I buy a 17-85 for $430 more. Back when the 17-85 came out, I was able to buy it for $440 thanks to a rare discount offer. Today, if I was going to spend $430 more for a 17-85, I would instead considering saving more and get the 15-85.

If you don't want to save for a 15-85, get the 18-55 kit. It's an awesome deal. It's also really small --- the smallest zoom lens with IS you can get. My 18-55 still gets used on my old 350D, making a really small DSLR setup.

My 17-85 is being used by my sister who prefers it over the 28-135 on her 7D (hopefully she'll get around to buying the 15-85).


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Aug 18, 2011 11:19 |  #7

Nish-ZA wrote in post #12956416 (external link)
Is the 17-85 lens worth the $430 more

No.

Nish-ZA wrote in post #12956416 (external link)
or should I get the 18-55 and save for something better? Any suggestions which?

Get the 18-55 and use it for a while. If you ultimately aren't satisfied with the range or build quality, save up for the newer 15-85.




  
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Aug 18, 2011 12:04 |  #8

I sold 18-55 IS and added $120 more for the 17-85 two and half years ago.
Both are good. 17-85 is better though, AF or focal range.IQ, both are decent.

IMO no travel lens is worth more than $300, be it 18-55, 17-85 or the new 15-85.


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Aug 18, 2011 12:52 as a reply to  @ genjurok's post |  #9

Agreed with the others. While the 15-85 is an excellent lens, it's rather expensive. You can still take good shots with the 18-55 kit-lens.

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Aug 18, 2011 13:01 |  #10

bpark42 wrote in post #12957578 (external link)
Get the 18-55 and use it for a while. If you ultimately aren't satisfied with the range or build quality, save up for the newer 15-85.

Or better still, save up for a f2.8 zoom lens like the Tamron 17-50 2.8, Sigma 17-50 2.8 or Canon 17-55 2.8




  
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Aug 18, 2011 13:02 |  #11

Nish-ZA wrote in post #12956416 (external link)
Hi All,

I am considering getting a Canon 60D and have seen two bundles from 2 suppliers...one with an 18-55 lens and the other with the 17-85 lens (at $430 more).

I shoot general stuff: family pics, travel, landscapes, wildlife.

Is the 17-85 lens worth the $430 more or should I get the 18-55 and save for something better? Any suggestions which?

Thank you.

The 17-85 is an overpriced stinker.

The 18-55 isn't great but at least it doesn't cost much and if it is the 18-55 IS version as opposed to non-IS then it is actually rather a sharp lens indeed much better image quality than the old and pricier 17-85.

cheapest place to start is 18-55 IS

the tamron 17-50 2.8 non-IS is really good (I sold 17-40L after getting it)

a lot of people like the new sigma 17-50 OS, i never trusted sigma before and haven't used this lens but it does seem to be getting a lot of raves, so if you want OS and can spend a bit more it migh tbe somethign to look into

the canon 15-85 IS has amazing range (and that is something to discount, 15-85 really covers a lot) and seems to get some solid enough reviews, although it is a bit slower than others in aperture

the canon 17-55 IS is very good but $$$ and I see some say that it is no sharper than the tamron (although it has faster AF and IS) and some saying that nothing about it is better than the sigma, so who knows




  
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Aug 18, 2011 13:02 |  #12

Having owned the 17-85, I agree, it is a serviceable lens but not worth the extra $$. If you decide later that you want the extra range, you can either save for a better lens, like the 15-85, or buy a 17-85 used. They are very cheap used. I sold mine, in pristine condition, on one of these sites for $250, which seemed like the going rate.


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Aug 18, 2011 13:41 |  #13

Go with 18-55. Save the extra money for other gear in the future.


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Aug 18, 2011 13:50 as a reply to  @ Tawcan's post |  #14

it is not worth THAT much more!!

if the kit lens is ~$100, and they're selling the 17-85mm upgrade for +$430, then they're valuing the 17-85mm @ ~$530!!

street value on the 17-85mm is around $250-$300, which is pretty decent (you could sell the kit lens to lessen that amount). however, at that price range, for a little more you could get the 18-135mm (arguably better/worse), or the tamron 17-50mm f/2.8


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Aug 19, 2011 01:29 |  #15

Thanks everyone for all the help and assistance....much appreciated....here in SA we do pay more for our stuff anyway....the 18-55 lens is IS....will take the 18-55 bundle and save up for a better lens.




  
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