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Aug 18, 2011 16:11 |  #796

photoguy6405 wrote in post #12958827 (external link)
"Google is your friend".

Sometimes people spend as much or more time saying that as they would have just answering the question. Plus, they also fail to consider that part of the reason people engage in forums is for the social interaction, as limited as it is. If it really bothers you that people ask questions, go surf the net by yourself.

It's actually against the "rules" here for someone to reply to a posted question by just saying something like "Google is your friend". I've been in less "moderate" news groups where that was a fairly common practice, and it used to really irritate me.

I do encourage people to search the forum and Google, but it is always part of something helpful.

For instance, I just wanted to help the folks here who wonder what the heck we are talking about so I Googled "google is your friend" and got this page:

http://www.google.com …urceid=ie7&rlz=​1I7ADRA_en (external link)

Enjoy:)!


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Aug 18, 2011 16:25 |  #797

Hmmm, Tony... let me google that for you (external link)...




  
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Aug 18, 2011 16:35 |  #798

Heh! There ya go:)!


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Aug 18, 2011 16:37 |  #799

" I bet you can see the moon with that "


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Aug 19, 2011 00:08 |  #800

"This photo does nothing for me."
If that is the case, why make any comment. If the photo is indeed that bad, then you just succeeded in bumping it to the top of the thread again. Be quiet and let it die a quick death at the bottom of the page.


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Aug 19, 2011 00:32 |  #801

dino211 wrote in post #12961246 (external link)
"This photo does nothing for me."
If that is the case, why make any comment. If the photo is indeed that bad, then you just succeeded in bumping it to the top of the thread again. Be quiet and let it die a quick death at the bottom of the page.

Well, that's one take on that phrase.

And then, my grandma used to say "If you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all",

But that was a long time ago and is old-fashioned and was before the Internet with anonymous posting...

I guess my other take on it is that that person is only speaking for themselves, so you really have to take such things as only the opinion of one person, so I wouldn't assume an image would just "die a quick death". I just don't care for the comment in and of itself because it contributes nothing to meaningful critique.


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Aug 19, 2011 15:12 |  #802

dino211 wrote in post #12961246 (external link)
"This photo does nothing for me."
If that is the case, why make any comment. If the photo is indeed that bad, then you just succeeded in bumping it to the top of the thread again. Be quiet and let it die a quick death at the bottom of the page.

I don't necessarily agree. It depends on if the person asked for feedback. If they didn't, then yes, it is best to move on. But if they are looking for feedback, then "this does nothing for me" is a valid comment on the subject matter and/or composition.

It would be helpful if the person expanded on that, though, and said *why* it does nothing for them.


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Aug 19, 2011 15:45 |  #803

photoguy6405 wrote in post #12964311 (external link)
I don't necessarily agree. It depends on if the person asked for feedback. If they didn't, then yes, it is best to move on. But if they are looking for feedback, then "this does nothing for me" is a valid comment on the subject matter and/or composition.

It would be helpful if the person expanded on that, though, and said *why* it does nothing for them.

I agree with this.


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Aug 19, 2011 16:14 |  #804

Saying "it does nothing for me" isn't a good thing to say, in my opinion, because it's so non-specific. Plus, it sounds a bit selfish.
I think that constructive criticism is good, but that phrase just seems condescending or insincere.

People can come up with something nicer than that.


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Aug 19, 2011 16:17 |  #805

I think one of the most overused phrases (I'm applying the term "phrase" loosely) is to constantly hate on Ken Rockwell. I happen to think he's right about a lot of things, and I admire that he put his passion to good use. I sometimes think he is a bit condescending, but I don't see what he's doing as a bad thing. He adds to the world of photography.


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Aug 19, 2011 16:28 |  #806

MikeFairbanks wrote in post #12964551 (external link)
Saying "it does nothing for me" isn't a good thing to say, in my opinion, because it's so non-specific. Plus, it sounds a bit selfish.
I think that constructive criticism is good, but that phrase just seems condescending or insincere.

People can come up with something nicer than that.


I see it as neither condescending nor insincere. To me, it just implies that it evokes no particular emotions of any kind, which I think is a fair enough comment.




  
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Aug 19, 2011 16:32 |  #807

Roy Mathers wrote in post #12964625 (external link)
I see it as neither condescending nor insincere. To me, it just implies that it evokes no particular emotions of any kind, which I think is a fair enough comment.

Funny, that's how I feel about Ken Rockwell. ;)


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Aug 19, 2011 16:48 |  #808

A fair-enough comment:)




  
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Aug 19, 2011 17:25 |  #809

MikeFairbanks wrote in post #12964555 (external link)
I think one of the most overused phrases (I'm applying the term "phrase" loosely) is to constantly hate on Ken Rockwell. I happen to think he's right about a lot of things, and I admire that he put his passion to good use. I sometimes think he is a bit condescending, but I don't see what he's doing as a bad thing. He adds to the world of photography.

I think he provides tons and tons of useful information for people, but he's a very "vanilla" sort of guy. Reading his site is a lot like reading a decent photography book from the 70s; plenty of important stuff that helps you along, but you know that things have changed since it was written and people are doing much more interesting, exciting things.

One thing that really bothers me about him is his slightly anti-RAW stance. As someone who hates shooting in JPEG with a passion, this paragraph sends me through the roof:

I never shoot raw. Why would I? Raw is a waste of time and space, and doesn't look any better than JPG even when you can open the files.

Of course it's good to explain the differences to people and let them know when it's likely they don't need to shoot RAW...but to poo-poo RAW as too much work and say it doesn't look any better is total hogwash. One thing, for example, that pisses me off when I'm trying to evaluate a lens using pixel-peeper.com is that most of the pictures were shot in JPEG, which pre-obliterates fine detail and makes them utterly useless on a sharpness-judging level.

It's that kind of misinformation that gets him the abuse!


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Aug 19, 2011 17:45 |  #810

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