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Aug 20, 2011 08:18 |  #301

meeko-

My exclamation was for the content of the second picture. I've never
seen a bird 'flipping' a mouse/rat like that. Wow!




  
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Aug 20, 2011 17:58 |  #302

meeko031 wrote in post #12964948 (external link)
....ok, so I stopped down to F8 and 11. does it appear to be soft like my previous posts?

The best wild life shoot in this thread so far bw!


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Aug 20, 2011 18:25 |  #303

Meeko-

Sharpness looks good. Their eyes look sharp like they should. With the
feathers & body, it's tough to tell because sometimes the birds/animals
naturally have a soft look to their bodies.

Also, on the second one, were you using 300mm as well as being physically
close? I'm looking for depth of field on the surface of the water and it looks
like you've got a shallow dof. (which, of course, requires higher f-stops
for more depth).

In either case and IMHO, much better than your first attempts. I think you can
stop worrying about your lens and start enjoying it.

x_tan - care to chime in?




  
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Aug 20, 2011 18:34 |  #304

Hi Tony,

I'm not a technical guy regarding photography. I just like their beautiful capture / timing (2nd one) and nice colour in the 1st one.

Yes, I'm also wondering how meeko got such sallow DOF with the 2nd shoot.

I'm going to take my 'heavy lens' to Swiss Alps this December as none of my current lenses can cover such wide range of photography challenge.


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Aug 20, 2011 18:37 |  #305

Two wrote in post #12969445 (external link)
Meeko-


(1)Also, on the second one, were you using 300mm as well as being physically
close? (2)I'm looking for depth of field on the surface of the water and it looks
like you've got a shallow dof. (which, of course, requires higher f-stops
for more depth).

1)yes, to both but not extremely close as the bird was in the water!(maybe 10-15 yards) I wanted to capture the facial expression on the bird as much as possible!

2)ok, maybe Iam misunderstanding something here but from what I've read, the higher the aperture the more will be in focus(dof depending on how close the subject is to foreground/background)​. with the setting I chose, isn't it suppose to have more dof? I think it appears to have a shallow dof because how the subject was placed in the shot! correct????????? I just want to get it clear/correct to learn the proper way! I really want to improve and not just click away wondering why the pictures turn out the way they do

thanks, i appreciate your comments, it helps me plenty




  
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Aug 20, 2011 18:47 |  #306

Hi Meeko,

@ 300mm, with f/5.6 will give your the sallowest DOF, which you can isolate the subject from the back / fore ground the best.

F/8~11 will give you a larger DOF, and also this lens is in their best sharpness. So the birds' eyes are looking incredible to me :)


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Aug 20, 2011 18:53 |  #307

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Hi Meeko,

(1) @ 300mm, with f/5.6 will give your the sallowest DOF, which you can isolate the subject from the back / fore ground the best.

(2) F/8~11 will give you a larger DOF, and also this lens is in their best sharpness.

(1) thanks, I understand that part. I didn't really even pay attention to how the background turned out. I didn't want to use a lower fstop to prevent the soft images like last week

(2) yes, that's why I used a higher fstop with the heron compared to shooting wide open last week which resulted in soft focus on the ducks!

thanks guys for taking the time to help me out.

on a side note, I met a lady in the park and asked me if I would like to join their bird watching walk group!




  
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Aug 20, 2011 18:56 |  #308

Keep up the good work, meeko :D


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Aug 21, 2011 11:06 |  #309

meeko-

If you were 30 feet away, with f/8 @300mm, your depth of field would
be about 1 foot (about 6 inches in front of and behind your focal point.
be aware that the depth of field is not always split 50/50 like this). I
would say that these settings would be great to stay with in this situation.

45 feet away with f/8 @ 300mm is about 2 feet depth of field. Still great
for this shot because the background is so far in the distance and will be
out of focus.

x_tan, I envy the places you get to visit. Just not all the traveling you have to
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Aug 21, 2011 15:12 |  #310

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would say that these settings would be great to stay with in this situation.



....I think if I stopped and pulled out my dof calculator, I would have missed the shot completely!!! :(




  
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Aug 23, 2011 13:43 |  #311

meeko031 wrote in post #12967432 (external link)
...yes it is heavy but I found a method for me that works. I leave the tripod collar on and hook it to one of the straps on my camera bag, or I cradle it (picture running with a football)when walking around! I do not recommend having it around your neck. purchase a different strap that's over the shoulder type, I think that would be more comfortable.

I've only had this lens for about a week, and like what others have said, it performs better when stopped down but it affects dof

I have the strap round my neck but support the weight of the camera by hooking tripod mount into the waist belt of my camera rucksack.

I also have only had it a week (used) and have a few photos I took. (On 7D)


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Aug 23, 2011 18:35 as a reply to  @ hania's post |  #312

@hania: I like this lens the more I use it! Did that camera shop near your place special order the lens for you?




  
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Aug 24, 2011 10:00 |  #313

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@hania: I like this lens the more I use it! Did that camera shop near your place special order the lens for you?

No I just looked online for the lens - got it from Mifsuds, uk; they had mine (without box) at £999 and mint boxed at about £1500.

Am careful who I get things from online - Mifsuds are well regarded so I felt safe; they don't actually let you order and pay - they ring you up, discuss the lens and then take the payment over the phone.


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Aug 24, 2011 20:18 |  #314

Start work late today, and capture some flower from my garden :)

5D2 @ 300mm, f/8, ISO125. Handhold.

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I need to practice more with this lens before my next trip :D

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Aug 24, 2011 20:45 |  #315

Last two from today :)

5D2 @ 300mm, f/5.6, ISO100, 1/400s

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5D2 @ 300mm, f/20, ISO500, 1/250s
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Time to clean up my sensor ;)

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