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Painter's Pole? (for those that do) How are you attaching a mono light to it

 
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Aug 19, 2011 22:17 |  #1

I have read this in a number of posts, and wondering how you do it safely?


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Aug 19, 2011 22:37 |  #2

I think that I monolight would be pretty heavy to hold on one, but it they're doing it, it is probably with one of these (external link).


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Aug 19, 2011 22:49 |  #3

I saw that, but thought the price a little ridiculous.


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Aug 19, 2011 23:55 |  #4

rsieminski wrote in post #12966281 (external link)
I saw that, but thought the price a little ridiculous.

You find a $20 piece of metal made for a very specific and niche market ridiculous? I strongly disagree (both because of it's usefulness and the cost of producing a product for such a small market).

I own all sorts of gear, much of which came at a relatively painful price...but there are few items or accessories that I've bought that have led to such an improvement in my results. Having an assistant holding a lightpole allows me to be much more daring/creative in my lighting (by trying things that may not work well and being able to reposition instantaneously), more finicky (by having assistant feather or move the light by a matter of inches w/o having to set down the camera/move the stand), and to increase the overall pace, flow, and energy of the shoot by speeding up setup times by avoiding lightstands altogether. Additionally, if I'm looking for a decent amount of movement, motion, or walking from the model, my assistant can move with the model to ensure that the lighting will be consistent and properly aimed throughout the shoot. Lastly, I can have an assistant standing with a light on a steep hill or rocky coast that would be impossible for a lightstand (even with a leveling leg), therefore allowing me to light in environments that were previously unusable.

Have I said I like the kacey adapter yet? :D


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Aug 20, 2011 00:02 as a reply to  @ Cathpah's post |  #5

^ did not read.

but the kacey adapter has gotten a lot of good reviews from many users on this board.




  
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Aug 20, 2011 09:22 |  #6

Kacey adapter. Well worth it IMHO. And if you do decide to get a pole, get a longer one where one end rests of the ground. Much easier for the assistant when holding strobe with bigger modifier.


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Aug 20, 2011 17:35 |  #7

rsieminski wrote in post #12966281 (external link)
I saw that, but thought the price a little ridiculous.

If you made them, how much would you charge for it? And then the dealer has to make something on it.




  
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Aug 20, 2011 20:26 |  #8

Cathpah wrote in post #12966568 (external link)
You find a $20 piece of metal made for a very specific and niche market ridiculous? I strongly disagree (both because of it's usefulness and the cost of producing a product for such a small market).

Ha ha, thats what I thought at first too! Then I realized OP IS looking to use a "painters pole" (which could mean a wooden broom stick for all I know) as a light boom pole. Personally I believe in the right tool for the right job and not half-butting anything. I wouldnt attempt any boom lighting without a high quality Avenger stand and boom arm myself as I feel that if I cant afford the proper tool I probably shouldnt be doing the job, but I do understand not everyone has the money to afford the proper tools and doesnt see things the way I do.

OP: The Kacey adapter IS the ridiculously cheap option and seems to be one of the best routes to go for those that have done it that way.


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Aug 20, 2011 20:46 |  #9

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If you made them, how much would you charge for it? And then the dealer has to make something on it.

I have access to both CNC Lathes and CNC Screw machines and wouldn't even consider taking the time to make one for myself. The price is more than reasonable.

You're talking an hour of program time and an hour of setup time at a rate of anywhere between 80 and 100 per hour. So you're looking at $160-200 just to program and setup - costs usually not charged to the client. Unless you are running a minimum of 50 pieces you are going to be paying a premium because the shop has to make their money back from the programming and setup. A larger run allows said costs to be absorbed a little easier.

I will eventually pay the 21 dollars for the part. Unless I have some strange hankering to make it out of titanium. :D


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Aug 20, 2011 20:51 |  #10

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Ha ha, thats what I thought at first too! Then I realized OP IS looking to use a "painters pole" (which could mean a wooden broom stick for all I know) as a light boom pole.

Nah, I have a 2 piece, fiberglass, telescoping, heavy duty painter's pole with a solid Al end, riveted in place. It'll hold a 4.5 lb Einstein, and a 64" PLM, or 22" BD.

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I wouldnt attempt any boom lighting without a high quality Avenger stand and boom arm myself as I feel that if I cant afford the proper tool I probably shouldnt be doing the job, but I do understand not everyone has the money to afford the proper tools and doesnt see things the way I do..

I have heavy duty stands, and 2 HEAVY duty boom arms, but there is no way my assistant could travel around with it, and never smoothly follow around a bride for a shot while she's walking toward me. It's not about money, as I shoot mostly with L glass, but they were worth the money. They have a value worth what I paid for them.

ben_r_ wrote in post #12969938 (external link)
I do understand not everyone has the money to afford the proper tools and doesnt see things the way I do.

If you can point me in the right direction for the proper tool, I'd gladly spend a couple hundred $ on it if it were worth it.

BUT, paying $35 for umbrella adapters, $39 for an 86" PLM, ...etc (Bargains). The Kasey device, at $22 + $7.50 for S&H, I don't find to be a bargain.


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Aug 20, 2011 21:07 |  #11

Are you looking for a bargain or are you looking for a solution?

If you don't need it then don't buy it. There is all kinds of cheap products you can buy off ebay. And if they don't do the job then who cares, right?




  
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Aug 20, 2011 21:27 |  #12

I am looking for a solution.

Kasey, your link does not work


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Aug 20, 2011 21:29 |  #13

This seems to be getting personal. Nothing against your adapter, I was just looking to see if there were any other solutions?


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Aug 20, 2011 22:44 |  #14

Kasey, why did you delete your post?


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Aug 20, 2011 22:49 as a reply to  @ rsieminski's post |  #15

Remove the raisers off a light stand, you got a VAL, no adapter needed. Want something heavy duty, C-stand with turtle base would works too.

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