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Aug 16, 2011 19:22 |  #542

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Aug 18, 2011 08:56 |  #543

interesting ^^


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Aug 25, 2011 15:33 |  #545

Trying to make a really tough decision. Having concluded I want a 14mm lens, I am conflicted over the available options.

The Nikkor 14-24mm is highly regarded, but I feel it would prove too challenging to use on a Canon camera, due to the need of an adapter with a manual aperture control (with no presets to know what aperture you're on).

The Samyang 14mm f/2.8 is a bargain and has been measured by Photozone.de to be even sharper than the Canon EF 14mm f/2.8L II. However, aside from the lack of AF, and its more distorted optics, the Samyang concerns me in the color rendering department. I've been studying example images from both lenses both here at POTN and on Flickr, and I keep being drawn in by the color rendition of the Canon lens. It doesn't help matters that so many Samyang users gravitate toward B&W photography. Nonetheless, the Samyang is very impressive at 1/5 the cost of the EF 14mm f/2.8L

So, I'm wondering if some of you EF 14mm f/2.8L II owners wouldn't mind sharing your own thoughts regarding the choice between the two lenses. If you had to do it all over again, would you still choose the more costly EF 14mm f/2.8L II over the Samyang 14mm f/2.8?


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Aug 25, 2011 22:57 |  #546

David Arbogast wrote in post #12999146 (external link)
Trying to make a really tough decision. Having concluded I want a 14mm lens, I am conflicted over the available options.

The Nikkor 14-24mm is highly regarded, but I feel it would prove too challenging to use on a Canon camera, due to the need of an adapter with a manual aperture control (with no presets to know what aperture you're on).

The Samyang 14mm f/2.8 is a bargain and has been measured by Photozone.de to be even sharper than the Canon EF 14mm f/2.8L II. However, aside from the lack of AF, and its more distorted optics, the Samyang concerns me in the color rendering department. I've been studying example images from both lenses both here at POTN and on Flickr, and I keep being drawn in by the color rendition of the Canon lens. It doesn't help matters that so many Samyang users gravitate toward B&W photography. Nonetheless, the Samyang is very impressive at 1/5 the cost of the EF 14mm f/2.8L

So, I'm wondering if some of you EF 14mm f/2.8L II owners wouldn't mind sharing your own thoughts regarding the choice between the two lenses. If you had to do it all over again, would you still choose the more costly EF 14mm f/2.8L II over the Samyang 14mm f/2.8?

I'm not sure if the Samyang was even available when I made to the decision to buy the EF14L II. But at the time, I was very used to only working with L series glass and very much loved the color and contrast these lenses produce along with the top notch construction quality and reliability.

Prior to owning mostly L series glass, I did have a few lenses from their regular series and very quickly got spoiled once I made the switch. I find mine to be acceptably sharp and can work around the softer corners by stopping the lens down a bit and manually focusing for the corners which will result in an over all sharp image in a normal landscape type of shot. I don't often have to do that though as the softer corners don't really bother me for the type of shooting I do with it.

If you can afford it, I don't think you'd be disappointed in buying one.

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Aug 26, 2011 08:33 |  #547

The Ghost of FM wrote in post #13001419 (external link)
I'm not sure if the Samyang was even available when I made to the decision to buy the EF14L II. But at the time, I was very used to only working with L series glass and very much loved the color and contrast these lenses produce along with the top notch construction quality and reliability.

Prior to owning mostly L series glass, I did have a few lenses from their regular series and very quickly got spoiled once I made the switch. I find mine to be acceptably sharp and can work around the softer corners by stopping the lens down a bit and manually focusing for the corners which will result in an over all sharp image in a normal landscape type of shot. I don't often have to do that though as the softer corners don't really bother me for the type of shooting I do with it.

If you can afford it, I don't think you'd be disappointed in buying one.

Cheers!

Thank you for the helpful reply, shooting tips, and recommendation!


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Aug 26, 2011 10:00 |  #548

Same here, I'm not aware of anything decent as compared to the canon 1 except the Nikon zoom. I'm not a techie and I'm not about to spend time trying to fit something that is not originally made for. Engineers or techies that have this knowledge can benefit from it by spending time on MTF curves, do research etc. My concerns are I need this lens, just want to shoot in peace and get what I'm paying for without worrying too much about other techie stuffs like full compatibility, functionality, features, built as well as other future considerations.

The 14mm is quite well build and can be a challenge to shoot at times. If you want to take wide angle shots seriously, then you should go for the best that suits your needs. I'm sure all other 14mm can do it as well. Now is just to align your $$$ to your needs.


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Aug 26, 2011 10:11 |  #549

The Ghost of FM wrote in post #12660216 (external link)
A bit of key stone for fun...





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Aug 26, 2011 14:04 |  #550

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Now this I like!

Thanks for the feedback! ;)

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Aug 26, 2011 17:27 |  #551

The Ghost of FM wrote in post #12660216 (external link)
A bit of key stone for fun...


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Cheers!

SAAWEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!




  
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Sep 01, 2011 22:24 |  #552

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SAAWEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!

Thanks Allen! Glad you liked it!;)

This shot below is probably not the typical subject for a ultra wide angle lens but the near field effect is kind of fun to play with, with the subject 2 inches away from the lens!


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Sep 01, 2011 23:15 |  #553

^Jeff, very dynamic shot; I love it! Did you compose that against another background in Photoshop, or was that the actual photographed background? In any case it has a great look to it. The surface texture on the Panasonic is wonderful as well...the whole shot looks very three-dimensionally vivid. As a guy that works in architecture doing 3d computer graphics for a living, I guess I have to say this looks remarkably like a very nice CG 3d rendering!

My EF 14mm f/2.8L II came yesterday afternoon; it is a real "wow" lens for sure. Being able to focus so close as you have above is a great creative asset. Two inches away from the lens? Wow, that is super! I'm looking trying the same myself.


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Sep 02, 2011 00:21 |  #554

David Arbogast wrote in post #13038864 (external link)
^Jeff, very dynamic shot; I love it! Did you compose that against another background in Photoshop, or was that the actual photographed background? In any case it has a great look to it. The surface texture on the Panasonic is wonderful as well...the whole shot looks very three-dimensionally vivid. As a guy that works in architecture doing 3d computer graphics for a living, I guess I have to say this looks remarkably like a very nice CG 3d rendering!

My EF 14mm f/2.8L II came yesterday afternoon; it is a real "wow" lens for sure. Being able to focus so close as you have above is a great creative asset. Two inches away from the lens? Wow, that is super! I'm looking trying the same myself.

Thanks for the feedback and interest in the shot!

The recorder was shot on a black infinity backdrop and 3 lighting sources were used to light the recorder from above and from lower left and right corners. The recorder was also propped up at its far end to get the shooting angle of the shot. The original black background was replaced in Photoshop with a gradient fill and a lower shadow was also done in CS5 to create a floating effect, which I guess gives the shot a CGI feel, though the recorder itself was not manipulated or altered beyond being processed as a two shot shot HDR to capture more of the lighting detail of the unit.

Congrats on getting the lens and we'll look forward to seeing what you can create with it!

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Sep 05, 2011 17:32 |  #555

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