Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
Thread started 17 Aug 2011 (Wednesday) 15:39
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

2 filters for a wide angle lens?

 
zohar0
Senior Member
279 posts
Joined Oct 2008
     
Aug 17, 2011 15:39 |  #1

Hello,

I have a 10-22 on my t2i.

I have a cokin p filter holder both the wide angle that supports 1 slot and then the regular filter holder that supports 3.

The regular holder vignettes on my 10-22 at 10mm.

I want to put 2 filters so the wide angle one wont work,
I do alot of sunsets at the beach. So I want a GND for the sky and then an ND so the water is very silky.

How do I achieve this affect with the equipment I have?


6d, 17-40L, 70-200 f/4L

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
Dr ­ Lazarus
Senior Member
Avatar
711 posts
Likes: 55
Joined May 2010
     
Aug 17, 2011 15:44 |  #2

Either stop down the aperture more, or you'll have to get a threaded ND filter and put that on first, and then the GND in the Cokin holder.

and/or crop the vignetting out of the shot later on. I've had to do that in the past with cheaper filters doubling the vignette with a nasty colour cast.


Flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
goldboughtrue
Goldmember
1,857 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Mar 2007
Location: Colorado
     
Aug 17, 2011 19:08 |  #3
bannedPermanent ban

If money isn't an issue, you can get a larger size filter with a step-up ring to eliminate the vignetting. I haven't tested this so don't take my word that it will eliminate vignetting.


http://www.pbase.com/g​oldbough (external link)

5D II, Canon 100 macro, Canon 70-200 f/4L, Canon 24-105 L, Canon TS-E 45, Sigma Art 35mm f/1.4

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
zohar0
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
279 posts
Joined Oct 2008
     
Aug 18, 2011 00:12 |  #4

goldboughtrue wrote in post #12954151 (external link)
If money isn't an issue, you can get a larger size filter with a step-up ring to eliminate the vignetting. I haven't tested this so don't take my word that it will eliminate vignetting.

If money wasn't an issue I wouldn't have a t2i ;)


6d, 17-40L, 70-200 f/4L

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
zohar0
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
279 posts
Joined Oct 2008
     
Aug 23, 2011 00:59 |  #5

Any other remedies, What do other people do?


6d, 17-40L, 70-200 f/4L

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Bendel
Senior Member
Avatar
323 posts
Joined Jan 2008
Location: Wisconsin
     
Aug 23, 2011 03:35 |  #6

zohar0 wrote in post #12982781 (external link)
Any other remedies, What do other people do?

Crop - there really isn't a way to do it otherwise


Brandon
Canon 5D, 24-105 F4L, 70-200 F4L, 85 F1.8, 430EX II

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
rick_reno
Cream of the Crop
44,642 posts
Likes: 133
Joined Dec 2010
     
Aug 23, 2011 10:06 |  #7

I use a B+W CPL on my 10-22, and I rarely get slight vignetting - it depends on where the sun is. It's easily fixed in post.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
zohar0
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
279 posts
Joined Oct 2008
     
Aug 23, 2011 10:50 |  #8

Will the screw on ND filter and then the wide angle Colin p with a GND over it work without vignetting?


6d, 17-40L, 70-200 f/4L

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MCAsan
Goldmember
Avatar
3,849 posts
Likes: 74
Joined Jun 2010
Location: Atlanta
     
Aug 23, 2011 20:25 as a reply to  @ zohar0's post |  #9

I do alot of sunsets at the beach. So I want a GND for the sky and then an ND so the water is very silky.


For the wide light range in a landscape, simply do AEB with at least 3 shots. Then you have two main choices:
HDR in PS5 or third party
merge photos via layers using PSE, PS3, Layers by Onone Software....etc.


So with money saved from not purchasing a stack of GNDs, purchase a VND such as the Fader model. You can dial in as much block as needed to smooth the water with longer exposure times.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
zohar0
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
279 posts
Joined Oct 2008
     
Aug 27, 2011 02:17 |  #10

MCAsan wrote in post #12987893 (external link)
For the wide light range in a landscape, simply do AEB with at least 3 shots. Then you have two main choices:
HDR in PS5 or third party
merge photos via layers using PSE, PS3, Layers by Onone Software....etc.


So with money saved from not purchasing a stack of GNDs, purchase a VND such as the Fader model. You can dial in as much block as needed to smooth the water with longer exposure times.

I bought a GND because its easier and more natural. I just want to use a GND and an ND at the same time with my 10-22

I had no clue it would be this difficult!


6d, 17-40L, 70-200 f/4L

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
MCAsan
Goldmember
Avatar
3,849 posts
Likes: 74
Joined Jun 2010
Location: Atlanta
     
Aug 27, 2011 19:01 as a reply to  @ zohar0's post |  #11

This is nothing natural about using a CMOS sensor to collect light data that is overhauled by computers in the camera body or on the desktop. ;)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
zohar0
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
279 posts
Joined Oct 2008
     
Aug 27, 2011 19:01 |  #12

MCAsan wrote in post #13010662 (external link)
This is nothing natural about using a CMOS sensor to collect light data that is overhauled by computers in the camera body or on the desktop. ;)

:lol:


6d, 17-40L, 70-200 f/4L

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sandpiper
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
7,171 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 50
Joined Aug 2006
Location: Merseyside, England
     
Aug 27, 2011 19:55 as a reply to  @ zohar0's post |  #13

It sounds like you will be using a tripod for the low shutter speeds, so you can simply place the two filters together and hold them in front of the lens can't you?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
zohar0
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
279 posts
Joined Oct 2008
     
Aug 27, 2011 20:47 |  #14

sandpiper wrote in post #13010923 (external link)
It sounds like you will be using a tripod for the low shutter speeds, so you can simply place the two filters together and hold them in front of the lens can't you?

Yes, but if im at a location for 45 minutes to one hour it would be great to have a holder...


6d, 17-40L, 70-200 f/4L

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sandpiper
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
7,171 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 50
Joined Aug 2006
Location: Merseyside, England
     
Aug 27, 2011 21:48 |  #15

zohar0 wrote in post #13011173 (external link)
Yes, but if im at a location for 45 minutes to one hour it would be great to have a holder...

Well, yes, of course it would. However, your current holders won't do the job and you have ruled out buying a larger one, on cost grounds. That doesn't leave you a whole lot of choice about using a holder.

Your original question was "How do I achieve this affect with the equipment I have?". The only ways I can see, without buying more equipment, are to just use one filter and do the GND effect in post (as someone suggested) or handhold the two filters.

Of course, you could cobble up some makeshift holder yourself, maybe using a cardboard tube with the filters stuck to the front of it, then slide it over the lens, so that the filters are close to the front element.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

1,846 views & 0 likes for this thread
2 filters for a wide angle lens?
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
968 guests, 205 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.