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Thread started 23 Aug 2011 (Tuesday) 17:46
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POLL: "Should Canon offer the 70-200L f4 and f4 IS in a black finish?"
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Aug 24, 2011 13:47 |  #31

I almost suggested that if Canon produced one in pink with the red line running along the length, they might attract a whole different demographic. But I didn't suggest it because I realised that the mods would delete it.




  
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Aug 24, 2011 16:02 |  #32

Loved, my 80-200 2.8L except for the AF speed and weight. Gorgeous lens, both the pictures it produced and the way it looks. Miss the black lenses. I only have a 70-200 and 300 now that are white, but would prefer they both be black. However, at least it does make it easy to pick out who is shooting what at media events and games.


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Aug 25, 2011 10:19 |  #33

gjl711 wrote in post #12987501 (external link)
I'm thinking that the white is all wank factor. It's kind of like brown eggs. For some odd reason people got it into their heads that brown eggs were better for you because they were harder to get. Little did they know that the only reason they are harder to get is the chickens who lay them eat more so the cost to produce a brown egg is higher.

I'm thinking a while lens is the same thing. Folks have it in their heads that since the lens is white, it absorbs less heat therefore somehow magically it produces better pictures. Has anyone ever actually tested it? I'm thinking that Canon in their infinite marketing wisdom saw that people think white lenses are better so they make white ones.

Re the hens - the amount they eat has nothing to do with egg colour - it depends on the breed of hen! (we are free-range egg farmers)


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Aug 25, 2011 10:23 |  #34

I have got more attention and comments with my black lenses then my white 70-200... I really dig the white color, honestly. I think it should be an option, but I would always go for the white.


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Aug 25, 2011 11:45 |  #35

hania wrote in post #12997261 (external link)
Re the hens - the amount they eat has nothing to do with egg colour - it depends on the breed of hen! (we are free-range egg farmers)

I agree, it's the breed of hen. However, the hens that lay brown eggs eat more than the hens that lay white eggs when you look at the overall picture. Less important to free rangers as the hens eat just about anything but important to the factory dudes where they count every corn kernel. :)


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Aug 25, 2011 11:50 |  #36

Black all the way, even the 2.8's. You stand out like a sore thumb with a huge white lens attached.

Wish they could give a choice of black or white.




  
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Aug 25, 2011 13:39 as a reply to  @ othomas's post |  #37

There isn't really a lot of "white" showing on the 70-200mm f/4L IS lens whether you use a OEM hood or a generic screw-in hood.

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I have found than people are impressed or awed by huge lens hoods than by white lenses. It is only photographers who worry about the color of their lenses...

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Aug 27, 2011 10:12 |  #38

Who cares what colour it is.
What's important is the image that it produces.


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Aug 27, 2011 13:07 as a reply to  @ philwillmedia's post |  #39

Never bought into the thermal expansion story, always believed it was and is more so now than ever strictly a marketing ploy. My FD 300f4L and 200f2.8L were black and took outstanding photos...


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Aug 27, 2011 13:33 |  #40

The thing that attracts attention about the L tele's is that they're both black and white, creating almost a "zebra stripe effect". This "striped" look catches the eye moreso than black by itself.




  
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Aug 27, 2011 17:19 |  #41

RPCrowe wrote in post #12998369 (external link)
There isn't really a lot of "white" showing on the 70-200mm f/4L IS lens whether you use a OEM hood or a generic screw-in hood.

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I have found than people are impressed or awed by huge lens hoods than by white lenses. It is only photographers who worry about the color of their lenses...

The screw in hood is too shallow... and the OEM hood isn't on straight. ;)

Someone mentioned LensCoats (external link) and I use them on a couple lenses... They not only change the color - to your choice of several camo or black or white - but the neoprene also protects the lens from bumps, insulates somewhat, and it's reversible if you change your mind later.

Of course it's a marketing ploy... quite a few of the lenses don't have fluorite elements in them. But it is true, fluorite is easily damaged and you really don't want even a tiny bit of thermal expansion around a tightly fitted element. Mirror (catadioptric) lenses are also quite often painted a light color, also to reduce the chance of thermal expansion because a mirror lens is very susceptible to any slight tweaking of the orientation of the elements and groups.

Canon was not the first and isn't the only company to paint some lenses white. It's been pretty common practice and most manufacturers have or had a lens or two or more that are white.


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Aug 27, 2011 17:34 |  #42

I personally got it cause I love the color :oops: :lol: but if you don't like it you could put a lens coat one it?

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Aug 27, 2011 17:45 |  #43

It's a lens, not a fashion accessory. I don't care what colour they are.


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Aug 27, 2011 18:16 |  #44

I prefer the white. It makes me appear more of a professional photographer than I really am, and the women love it. jk (well not really) lol

White, black, purple, i don't care. As long as it produced great results I'd buy it.


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Aug 27, 2011 18:22 |  #45

lancebroad wrote in post #12987372 (external link)
The colour is part of the lens design since there is so much glass in it. The white resists the need to expand as much since is dissipates heat better than the black. More to it than wank factor.

This is incorrect. Colors don't dissipate heat, they either reflect light or absorb it (including infrared).

White simply reflects more light than black, which means white will not convert as much light into heat as black will.

But I don't buy that temperature matters that much. The real reason for the white is conspicuity, and I thought this was obvious.


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