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85L 1.2 or 24-70 2.8

 
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Aug 28, 2011 04:08 |  #1

I like doing portraiture work. I lot the pics coming out of the 85 but I would also like a walk around lens. Do any of you use the 85 for a walk around lens?


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Aug 28, 2011 04:14 |  #2

you already have 3 great portrait lenses that you can buy from canon. what don't you like about the 85 1.8 that you feel that the 1.2 will give you for $1500 more? if you want a "walk around" lens, then get the 24-70 but you might be better off getting the 17-55. you can walk around with a 85 if you're trying to do candid street photography or trying to shoot indoor sports but i wouldn't use it as a walk around. a 17-55 will also fit in nicely with your other lenses giving you coverage on the wide end while still having constant f 2.8 with IS.


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Aug 28, 2011 04:14 |  #3

AS you have 85 f/1.8 already; did you ever use it as walk-around?


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Aug 28, 2011 09:20 |  #4

I use it for walking around, at night.




  
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Aug 28, 2011 09:59 |  #5

I just figured the L series would be better no?


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Aug 28, 2011 10:44 |  #6

The 85L is a very nice lens,one of the best Canon produces. Why don't you rent/borrow one to see if you like it?




  
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Aug 28, 2011 11:30 |  #7

17-55mm f/2.8 would make a better walk-around lens. I have the 24-70mm and it's not quite wide enough on a crop body in many situations.


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Aug 28, 2011 11:31 |  #8

Supersteve911 wrote in post #13013319 (external link)
I just figured the L series would be better no?

Not necessarily. The one thing the 24-70mm has going for it in that regard is it's all metal body and can be weather-sealed I believe (if using a filter).


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Aug 28, 2011 14:41 |  #9

I use 85L for every thing portrait, action, sport, travel, landscape !!! I always have 85L with 24L as walkaround/travel with 5D ..

But, there is a real difference from zoom or 85F1.8 only on fullframe not with apsc ..
If some lenses are ready for next gen bodies (30MP) 85L is one of them (probably with 200L too)


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Aug 28, 2011 15:39 |  #10

I had a 40D. I got the 85/1.8 like you and love it. I rented the 85L to see if I can live with this lens (slower AF, amazing f1.2...) and I must admit that I fall in love with it. Upgraded my 85/1.8 and my 40D with 5D2+85L. There is no brainer, the 85L is the magic lens for bokeh, sharpness (as soon as f1.2 !)... But, I must admit that on a crop body, the 85L is not that good for me. Still for me, the bokeh looks like 1.8 on FF.

IMO, your 7D+85/1.8 is good enough for portraits. If you really want to improve, go FF + 85L and/or 135L, 2 amazing lenses for portraiture.


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Aug 28, 2011 17:36 |  #11

I'd say stick with your 1.8 85mm and get the 24-70mm looks like an awesome lens. Might be my next purchase too!


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Aug 28, 2011 17:46 |  #12

Although the 85L practically creates light in places that there is little, it's AF system has very defined limits of illumination that it can lock on and track. Both the 50L and 35L are better in this regard. Looking at your current gear list, I think you would be better served with a 24-70L than the 85L


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Aug 28, 2011 23:44 |  #13

GMCPhotographics wrote in post #13015213 (external link)
Although the 85L practically creates light in places that there is little, it's AF system has very defined limits of illumination that it can lock on and track. Both the 50L and 35L are better in this regard. Looking at your current gear list, I think you would be better served with a 24-70L than the 85L


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Aug 28, 2011 23:52 |  #14

GMCPhotographics wrote in post #13015213 (external link)
Although the 85L practically creates light in places that there is little, it's AF system has very defined limits of illumination that it can lock on and track.

Really? I've read that the AF speed is very limiting, but the f/1.2 aperture should be the speed at which the AF system works in all circumstances (unless an extender / extension tube is used of course). Even with fast AF sensors described in the marketing as being "extra sensitive with lenses of f/2.8 or greater," I've never seen any evidence that AF speed is anything but improved when light is even further increased. The only area I would expect difficulties to arise in is with focus shift, but that's not something I have seen demonstrated to be a problem with this lens (external link). The 85mm f/1.2L II doesn't seem to exhibit any focus shift.




  
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Aug 28, 2011 23:53 |  #15

Supersteve911 wrote in post #13013319 (external link)
I just figured the L series would be better no?

There were many 85 f/1.8 Vs f/1.2 thread there.

Many previous owners believe that 85L II is bit over-the-top unless you NEED f/1.2.

I never own an 85 f/1.8 before, but I LOVE my 85L II the most (out of 7 L I own).

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