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Aug 29, 2011 06:31 |  #1

Hi guys, I’ve bean looking at head for tripods , any one tell me the how much of the dampening vibrations in a tap test is down to ball head i.e ball and a skinny shaft aka tuning fork like effect and how much is the tripod ?

And has any one down a comparison between and tilt and pan head and a ball head in a tap test on the same set up?

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Aug 29, 2011 06:44 |  #2

whu-1 wrote in post #13017740 (external link)
Hi guys, I’ve bean looking at head for tripods , any one tell me the how much of the dampening vibrations in a tap test is down to ball head i.e ball and a skinny shaft aka tuning fork like effect and how much is the tripod ?

And has any one down a comparison between and tilt and pan head and a ball head in a tap test on the same set up?

The differences you would find are not strictly because of the differences between ball heads and three-way heads. The differences you might see would be due to the individual designs of the specific heads involved in the test.

In other words, you could be testing a cheap ball head against a decent 3-way head and have totally different results if you tested a decent ball head against a cheap 3-way head.


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Aug 29, 2011 08:02 |  #3

has any on done the test ?




  
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Aug 29, 2011 08:16 |  #4

whu-1 wrote in post #13017972 (external link)
has any on done the test ?

What specific heads are you interested in having a comparison done between?

Like I said before, there is no generic difference in stability between all ball heads and all 3-way heads. For example, if you find one particular ball head that's less stable than one particular 3-way head, that means absolutely nothing relative to your question which is about all ball heads and all 3-way heads.

I suspect that you have a specific set of conditions in mind for the comparison. Can you tell us what you are really wanting to know?


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Aug 29, 2011 08:33 |  #5

Manfrotto 701HDV $130 and Manfrotto Hydrostatic Ball Head with RC3 $320
has any one tryed any combinations ?

did not give specific information as the combinations are endless ...............

general ...............

its bit like saying cf is better alu at dampening vibrations , not true in all case but close , ppl spend big money on tripods , assume some one would have looked in to it . :oops:




  
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Aug 29, 2011 10:14 as a reply to  @ whu-1's post |  #6

I've seen a couple of vibration tests done to compare tripods, you can use Google to find them. One was on a Nikon forum. I've not seen anything doing vibration testing on heads, but if in your searching you find something post it here for others to see.




  
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Aug 29, 2011 10:41 |  #7

watched the camrealabs video and right up .......that what go me think ,
quote from the right up ..
"The choice of head obviously also plays a significant role in the stability of the system as a whole. We chose the Manfrotto 701HDV head (pictured opposite) for our vibration tests, which uses a fork to support the camera plate on both sides rather than just one side on a traditional three-way model. It's not Manfrotto's sturdiest head by any means, but less prone to vibration than most models in general use."

from a vibrations and engineering point of view the ball head design not the best for vibration , ppl spend big money for sturdiest and sturdiest figured some one might have tested it out , because there a trade off :-)

yes did google it , lots of quotes but no details :-)




  
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Aug 29, 2011 10:42 |  #8

whu-1 wrote in post #13018057 (external link)
Manfrotto 701HDV $130 and Manfrotto Hydrostatic Ball Head with RC3 $320
has any one tryed any combinations ?

did not give specific information as the combinations are endless ...............

general ...............

its bit like saying cf is better alu at dampening vibrations , not true in all case but close , ppl spend big money on tripods , assume some one would have looked in to it . :oops:

There are so many variations in tripod heads that I doubt anybody has done a comprehensive test.

The smart customer buying a tripod tries out specific tripod and head combinations with his/her equipment to see how they perform. That is precisely how I chose the Bogen/Manfrotto 3021ProB/488RC2 combination that I bought many years ago. I mounted my heaviest camera/lens on several rigs in the store and figured out which was the best for me. My criteria included how sturdy the tripods were, how convenient the controls and adjustments were to use, how they handled for setup/teardown, ease of carrying them in the field, etc.

As you can imagine, analysis of my tests included personal likes and dislikes. A lot of what I went through in the decision-making process could not be condensed into a published test very well.


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Aug 29, 2011 14:54 |  #9

Read this, about vibration in tripod+head systems

http://markins.com/cha​rlie/report4e6.pdf (external link)


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