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Aug 30, 2011 18:09 |  #1

I shoot with a 5D2, and have for a couple years now. I upgraded from a 40D, which at the time, I thought was great. Till I shot with the 5D2 and L glass.

Fast forward 2 years, and I bought the 7D to go with the 5D2, and... I hate it. The popup flash is annoying as hell, sometimes when I want to shoot creative in semi-auto, it pops up to screw things up. If the release button gets touched in the bag, it clicks and clicks as it tries to release the flash but can't. Add to that the crop sensor being more noisy than the FF. I've shot lower light conditions that give me horridly noisy images, where in the same circumstances, the 5D2 doesn't. And my array of FF lenses are wasted on the 7D, especially the 15mm fisheye.

I know everyone loves the 7D, but if I'm going to have a backup in the bag, I'd prefer a FF 5D2, even if it's used.

So, I sold the 7D, buyer picks it up tomorrow. Here's to hoping that I don't regret selling it. (Body only sold for $1350 CDN, + the battery grip, which I threw in for $100.

Anyone else have similar feelings towards the 7D?




  
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Aug 30, 2011 18:22 |  #2

Most people love the combo of 5D2 and 7D, but obviously it's not for everyone. Save a few bucks, find a 5DC, and spend the rest on some good glass.




  
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Aug 30, 2011 19:08 |  #3

Sorry the 7D didn't live up to your needs.

Also, sounds like someone got a great deal on a used 7D.

EDIT: Never had a problem with my 40D or my 7D's pop-up flash. Of course in "M", "AV", or "TV" it never pops up unless you hit the button.


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Aug 30, 2011 19:13 |  #4

I never had the flash pop up in the bag, and I ran around with 40d and 7d quite a bit.

The noise is shocking, but then so is the loss of reach if you are after birds and you don't have a sofa-filling lens.


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Aug 30, 2011 19:22 |  #5

Nomadik wrote in post #13026653 (external link)
The popup flash is annoying as hell, sometimes when I want to shoot creative in semi-auto, it pops up to screw things up.

I have never had the problem with the pop-up flash but, I never shoot in other than manual, AV, TV or occasionally in the P mode. I have never ued the CA mode. The flash will not pop up in any of those modes unless I order it to. The only time I will pop up the flash is when I am using it to control other flashes wirelessly.

Additionally, I have never had the problem of the flash accidently popping up...


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Aug 30, 2011 19:24 |  #6

Why not just disable the flash in the flash setup menu so that it wont pop up and fire when you don't want it to?
My flash won't pop up when the button is pressed unless the power is on. Was it in the bag on?


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Aug 30, 2011 19:41 |  #7

The flash issues I can deal with, honestly. (And I looked in the menu for a way to disable the popup flash, and couldn't find it. Are you sure it's even possible?)

The main thing for me is the noise. I dunno what it is about crop sensors, but when sorting 1200+ photos shot on 2 different cameras and all pooled in the same folder, I can tell which ones were shot on which camera, just on the noise levels in the image. And that's at the "default" size when loaded in Lightroom.




  
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Aug 30, 2011 19:48 |  #8

isnt there only one stop of improvement over the 7D with the 5D2? If shooing stationary objects I guess 5d2 is ok, but the AF is awesome on the 7D.


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Aug 30, 2011 19:52 |  #9

I see what you mean... The option to shut it off isnt available in some modes.
I also get what your saying about the noise but the camera does have some good qualities too...


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Aug 30, 2011 19:56 |  #10

EDIT: Never had a problem with my 40D or my 7D's pop-up flash. Of course in "M", "AV", or "TV" it never pops up unless you hit the button.

Yup! Never had an issue with my pop-up flash either.


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Aug 30, 2011 19:59 |  #11

I dont understand...did you not find those same things you hated about the 7D on your 40D years ago?

I definitely agree about the high ISO low light shots..LOTS of NR needed in PP...but, it is manageable..
The AF system is worth the cost of the 7D itself...plus with the 1.6x crop, 18mp, and 8fps...it cant be touched for the $,imho.
As soon as I have the $, I will be selling the 40D and buying another 7D(to accompany my 5D2).

I found though that the 7D took a little while to 'get used to'...after I understood the AF and the noise limitations I loved it..it fit my needs perfectly..at the time.
does it compare to a 5D2? no..it is not supposed to..it cant.imho


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Aug 30, 2011 19:59 |  #12

Another one of these threads.




  
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Aug 30, 2011 19:59 |  #13

are you suggesting that 7D's noise is worse than the 40D or 50D??


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Aug 30, 2011 20:02 |  #14

Time for you to buy 1D MARKIII or MKIV :p


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Aug 30, 2011 20:07 as a reply to  @ Ebwly's post |  #15

It is very big news for me what semi-automatic modes are somehow creative.
For me creative is in M, AV modes where I could control the camera in full mode.
I also don't understand the reason to keep camera turned on and keep it in the bag.
Turn it on as soon as you have bag open and by the time it is in front of you it will be on.
Agree with waste of ef UWA and regular zooms on 1.6 crop.


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