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Grand Canyon - Canyonlands - Arches

 
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Aug 16, 2011 20:36 |  #1

Good Day folks,

Heading out west in early December. Since I'm pretty new to landscapes (mostly do urban) was wondering if you can point out anything special I might need?

Current gear is a 7d, 24-105L and 70-200L IS. I do not have any filters. Should I pick up a polarizing for the canyons?

Also any tips for these parks? We have never been to any of them. How much time in each park?

Thanks

Chris

Edit: I'm probably going to rent a UWA lens, 10-22 or sigma 10-20.


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Aug 16, 2011 20:54 |  #2

you definitely wanna rent a UWA. In fact, I would suggest you purchase one. It is the kind of lens that every landscape shooter needs. I loved the 10-22 on my 7D.

Would suggest you have a CPL for every lens...with the possible exception of the UWA. It is all too easy on a UWA like 10mm to vignette the heck of the sky and ruin the shot. So a little polarizing on the UWA goes a long way.

I would consider a 1.4 converter for the 70-200. You never know when you will find some nice wildlife to shoot.....or even a distant landscape.

How much time can you spend in any one of those parks doing photography....literal​ly a lifetime. When we go to Moab we go for at least 2 weeks at a time and usually spend it in Arches, Canyonlands Island in the Sky, Dead Horse SP, Gemini Bridges and other sites within a 2 hour drive.

Go to Amazon and order at least the first volume (1st of 3) of Photographing the Southwest. You can do some serious planning with those books.




  
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Aug 16, 2011 20:58 |  #3

Be aware that, at the Canyon, you'll be "confined" to the South Rim only in December...


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Aug 16, 2011 22:44 |  #4

There is a fantastic series of books called "Photographing the Southwest" do yourself a favor and pick the ones up that are applicable to where you will be visiting. You wont be disappointed.




  
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Aug 17, 2011 06:13 |  #5

I agree with all that's been said.

A couple days at South Rim, shooting early and late, will allow you to shoot from all the overlooks. Dec should be good, I like it with snow on the rocks.

You can spend months around Moab and not run out of opportunities, so it will just be a matter of your choices. I've never been there in winter, but would love to shoot Arches with snow on the rocks.

Be aware that you will pass by, or near, lots of wonderful scenery if you drive directly to Moab from Grand Canyon. You'll get an idea when you read the book that has been recommended.


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Aug 17, 2011 19:57 |  #6

Thanks for the advice, will order them books tonight.

How long should we plan for the south rim? 2 days?

We also plan on taking 163 from GC to Moab. Valley of the gods, etc.

Again thanks.


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Aug 25, 2011 21:35 |  #7

go to Page, visit Antelope canyon, do smoothwater float trip down the canyon

2 days max south rim
2 days min Sedona
2 days Page
2 days min Zion
2 days Bryce Canyon

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Aug 26, 2011 08:00 |  #8

I agree with all the good info above. Def. rent the UWA, I used the 12-24 extensively on our trip (Thanks for some good Antelope tips Stan!).

I would also highly recommend the CPL. It got a lot of use, especially in the harsh midday sun.


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Aug 26, 2011 08:24 |  #9

It seemed to be that with the wide angle, the CPL was troublesome as the sky will change colors or you ahd other distortions across the frame. Next time I go west, I think I am going to try some different filters to help pull out the colors, especially in mid-day sun. Good article here

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Never used a blue-yellow polarizer before but it looks interesting




  
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Aug 26, 2011 11:24 as a reply to  @ g8trgr8t's post |  #10

Remember that a filter can no pull out (amplify) any color; it can only reduce the undesired colors. That means you are losing data in the capture. Instead shoot to the right on the histogram and capture as much data as possible without blowing out highlights. Then use various post processing techniques and software filters to use all that data to create the desired image.

With film we had to "get it right in camera". With digital we should try to "capture as much data as possible" in camera. Those two concepts are not the same. ;)




  
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Aug 26, 2011 15:20 |  #11

Chris, I'm not sure if your schedule allows, but a night in Monument Valley (and a rushed guided Navajo tour in the AM) was well worth the stop for us. We stayed at "The View" and it was a great place for sunrise.

Checking back on the trip pics, most of my CPL shots seem to be with the 17-85 and I was pleased with the results. I found it helpful in creating contrast for potential B&W shots and for slowing shutter speeds for waterfalls (although I used the ND for that more often than not).


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Aug 30, 2011 13:34 |  #12

happy I found this thread, I'm heading down there in Oct. can't wait


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Aug 31, 2011 10:47 |  #13

The September issue of Outdoor Photography has an article on the Grand Canyon with some tips and locations.


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Aug 31, 2011 10:53 |  #14

Thanks for all the replies guys and gals.

I will look into Bryce Canyon. Didn't even give it a thought until I saw your pics. What is Sedona all about, all I can find is info on day spas.... Wife might like that, but I'll pass :)

We will be driving through monument valley and valley of the gods. However we are only given ourselves 1 day for that. Basically the drive from Grand Canyon to Moab.

The awesome part is I got rooms in Tusayan, AZ for 56 dollars a night at Holiday Inn Express. And Moab, UT 74.00 a night at Best Western.


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Aug 31, 2011 11:10 |  #15

Monument valley is one of my favorites. Go on a guided tour if you have time. The tour road is horrendous and needs 4wd vehicles . Shoot some images from the restaurant balcony at The View Hotel located right in the valley

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