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is a 70-200 f4 good for action sports

 
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Sep 01, 2011 08:02 |  #31

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Ultra steady.. lol ya right I only have the use of my right arm and im a diabetic which means even on a good day my hand still shakes...lol

In this case you might want to think about the very considerable difference in size and weight between the Canon f4 and the Sigma f2.8. For many people it's not a problem, but for me (I have arthritis), it was. I used to have the Sigma non-OS f2.8, and while I liked the images I got from it, I ended up selling it mostly because of the weight; I found I was leaving it at home more often than not, just so I wouldn't have to carry it around. I replaced it with the Canon f4 IS, and couldn't be happier.

If you haven't actually handled the two lenses, I'd strongly recommend doing so before making your final decision. Outdoors in daylight, the f4 will do a fine job for you and will certainly be much easier to hand-hold for long periods. If you don't actually need the f2.8, the Canon is a great choice.


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Sep 01, 2011 09:30 |  #32
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Thank you everyone for ur replies, im going to try this weekends scrimage with the lenses I have and then hopefully ill be able to figure out what I want..


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Sep 01, 2011 14:40 |  #33

Canon_Lover wrote in post #13026937 (external link)
1 stop of extra light is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY​YYYYYYYYY overrated.

People act like you can't shoot f4 but all the sudden f2.8 allows for shooting anything? :lol:

Sure it helps when you need that little bit more, but it is by no means a silver bullet. You can only cut the blur in half with 1 stop of extra light. A person bluring 3 feet in a photo will not be sharp if taken at 2.8 instead of 4, it will still be blurred 1.5 feet.

Faster primes are a notable difference when you start getting 2 or more stops of light.

Having a smaller and lighter lens (cheaper too!) is a HUGE advantage, even more so than having something faster, but twice the weight and price.

Very true. The shot below was taken with a 70-200mm f/4 IS lens and a 7D. High ISO can be your friend. :)

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Sep 01, 2011 14:50 as a reply to  @ post 13020836 |  #34

You need $1600 for a used 2.8? I got my 70-200 2.8L for $950...


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Sep 01, 2011 22:10 |  #35
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1600 = 70-200 f2.8 is

im sure i can find one for cheaper but havent looked


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Sep 01, 2011 22:34 |  #36

If you are shooting during the day you will be fine. Don't bother with the IS version though. You only need IS when you are below 1/30 of a second and you never shot action at any speed below 1/320..


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Sep 02, 2011 06:52 |  #37

I would still recommend the IS version over the non-IS, as long as it fits within the budget. While IS is not really needed for sports due to the shutter speeds needed, having IS makes the lens more versatile for other types of shooting. I use my 70-200 f/4 IS for landscape and some wildlife, as well as for sports.


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Sep 02, 2011 07:28 |  #38

I would say the opposite. I have the non-is version and haven't had any regrets on account of it. As others have said, IS is pretty useless for any type of 'action' sport at this focal length unless you anticipate going for some type of a controlled blur. Otherwise the speed of the action will dictate your shutter speed, not camera shake. IS is something I rarely find myself actually 'needing'.


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Sep 02, 2011 07:39 |  #39

Dustin Mustangs wrote in post #13040071 (external link)
I would say the opposite. I have the non-is version and haven't had any regrets on account of it. As others have said, IS is pretty useless for any type of 'action' sport at this focal length unless you anticipate going for some type of a controlled blur. Otherwise the speed of the action will dictate your shutter speed, not camera shake. IS is something I rarely find myself actually 'needing'.

I agree with a few of the others. If you can afford it, get the IS version. If the sport you are shooting requires panning, you'll want the IS. If you are going to use the lens for something requiring a SS of less then 1/100, you'll want IS. If getting the lens with IS is out of your price range, then the answer is easy. But if you plan on keeping the lens for any amount of time and can afford IS, then do it...buy once.


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Sep 02, 2011 08:42 |  #40

I'd recommend getting the lens you can afford


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Sep 02, 2011 14:23 as a reply to  @ dougy_8505's post |  #41

I wouldn't bother with IS... I'd rather have a 2.8 non-IS than a 4 IS


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Sep 04, 2011 15:02 |  #42

I have seen used siggy 70-200's go for $600 used but have to be patient. I tried a friends siggy and like it and is a great deal if you can find one used in good condition. I have an old 80-200mm 2.8 which is awesome that I picked up on eBay on the cheap and can be found for $650-$700 if you aren't in a rush.


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Sep 04, 2011 23:36 |  #43

I got my Sigma 70-200 2.8 for $450 used...beat that.


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Sep 05, 2011 00:46 |  #44

70-200mm f4 is really good for your day time sports.. I use it all the time with very happy results. 2.8 is needed for stadium lights or indoor arenas.


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Sep 05, 2011 01:08 |  #45

How do you guys feel about the 70-200 2.8L IS vs the 70-200 2.8L IS II ?

There's about $700 difference MSRP. Not sure what IS vs IS II offers.


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