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Is there a new Canon EF 100-400 L in the works?

 
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Sep 08, 2011 14:36 |  #1

Hello all (first post!)

I'm thinking of buying the Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6L IS USM lens, but it's design is 13 years old; I'd feel really dumb if I bought one and a few months later Canon came up with version II.

If there's any information out there about an upcoming version, I'd appreciate some pointers.

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Sep 08, 2011 14:54 |  #2

Yes,
Canonrumors.com has it being released in early 2009 oh wait it's still not out.

Real answer is who knows.


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Sep 08, 2011 14:58 |  #3

It is and has been a cash cow since dirt. The best Canon could do was stick even more glass in the optical train in the form of a flip in/out built in TC and call it a new model...the 200-400 L. No new news on when it will actually ship but it was announced awhile back. To bad they didn't just update the old dog 100-400 and make it a 200-500 with updated IS FL elements and new coatings. But, nooooo they had to stop it at the same ole 400mm and add even more potential light loss.

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Sep 08, 2011 15:00 |  #4

It's been rumored to be replaced/updated for years, but nothing yet. Canon will be coming out with a 200-400mm f/4 w/ the built-in 1.4x extender. But that's a completely different beast than the 100-400mm.


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Sep 08, 2011 15:01 |  #5

rang wrote in post #13071374 (external link)
But, nooooo they had to stop it at the same ole 400mm and add even more potential light loss.

The 200-400mm is supposed to be f/4, so it's faster than the 100-400mm. And with the 1.4x converter, it will be 560mm @ 5.6, same speed as the 100-400 @ 400mm.


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Sep 08, 2011 15:40 |  #6

Also, the 200-400 will be enormously more expensive than the current 100-400 model. Guestimates are $4000, from what I have read. So, it isn't really an upgrade.

It is too bad that they don't just give us a slight upgrade with better IS, or maybe a 200-500 for under $2000. When pigs fly...

The 400 f5.6 is also a really old design, but it keeps chugging along. It would be nice to have IS on it. I'd pay an extra $100 for sure. ;)


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Sep 08, 2011 17:47 |  #7

If you want one, buy it. Who knows when, or if, Canon is going to update the 100-400. Even if they do, the mkII version is certainly going to be more expensive.




  
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Sep 08, 2011 17:49 |  #8

If you want one, get one. There isn't a direct replacement coming out any time soon.


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Sep 08, 2011 17:56 |  #9

RAH1861 wrote in post #13071622 (external link)
Also, the 200-400 will be enormously more expensive than the current 100-400 model. Guestimates are $4000, from what I have read. So, it isn't really an upgrade.

That's not a guesstimate. It's wishful thinking. The Canon 200-400 will presumably go for around what the Nikon one does + $$ for the integrated TC. The Nikon goes for about $6800 new.

Either way, it's definitely not a replacement for the 100-400.




  
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Sep 08, 2011 19:13 as a reply to  @ bpark42's post |  #10

I give up waiting for the new one about 18 months ago and got me one. Not sorry at all. Have taken a lot of nice shots of birds and wildlife that I would have missed if I was still waiting for the new mkII.

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Sep 08, 2011 23:19 |  #11

My guess as long as the sales are good why bother?




  
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Sep 08, 2011 23:25 as a reply to  @ Tanglefoot47's post |  #12

As said above, a new 100-400 has been rumoured for a loooooong time.

But if you think about it, the current one is very well placed in the Canon lens line-up.
It's well priced, popular among aspiring amateurs and pros, handles well, has 'good' IS, and when shooting with plenty of light is fast to AF, and sharp too.

To replace it means what? More glass? Newer IS? One more stop?
All this means a price-hike in a fairly "niche" lens, which Canon really don't need to do, when they've recently released the 70-200L II.

Just buy one.
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Sep 08, 2011 23:39 |  #13

rang wrote in post #13071374 (external link)
It is and has been a cash cow since dirt. The best Canon could do was stick even more glass in the optical train in the form of a flip in/out built in TC and call it a new model...the 200-400 L. No new news on when it will actually ship but it was announced awhile back. To bad they didn't just update the old dog 100-400 and make it a 200-500 with updated IS FL elements and new coatings. But, nooooo they had to stop it at the same ole 400mm and add even more potential light loss.

Wizards.

The new 200-400 is not in any way a replacement or update for the 100-400mm. It is an entirely new/separate lens. What gave you the idea that it was going to be a replacement for the 100-400? Did Canon tell you they were discontinuing the 100-400mm when the newly proposed 200-400mm f4 becomes available???

Likewise, the fictional 200mm-500mm that you suggested wouldn't be a replacement for the 100-400 either. It would be an entirely new, separate model.

When Canon updates/replaces lenses, they do so with newer versions of the same focal lengths and apertures.
For example, when they replaced the 70-200 f2.8 IS, they did so with the 70-200mm f2.8 IS version 2.
When they replaced the 300mm f2.8 IS, they did so with the 300mm f2.8 IS version 2.
Sometimes there may be a very slight departure from this, such as (almost two decades ago) when they replaced the 500mmm f4.5 with a 500mm f4. But the way they've done it for a long, long time now is to simply improve the existing lens with technical & build improvements such as more effective IS, better coatings on some of the optical elements, and weight-reducing design modifications.
They don't just go discontinuing a lens, make a whole new lens that has different focal lengths and apertures, then tell us that this completely different new lens is a replacement for the old discontinued one.


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Sep 09, 2011 07:45 |  #14

I chuckle every time people say the 200-400 is a "replacement" for the 100-400. Do you really think the lens on the top is a "replacement" for the one on the bottom? (this is a scaled photo, so the relative sizes are real)

Not to mention that they have entirely different designs.

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Sep 09, 2011 07:53 as a reply to  @ howiewu's post |  #15

^^^^ Plus the one on the top will be priced around 8K ! :lol:


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