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Sep 16, 2011 23:40 |  #16

I like the output of the 1DIIn better when I compare to two similar images between the two.
Might be my personal preferences.


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Sep 17, 2011 10:57 |  #17

There's a ton of threads on this. I think it needs a sticky:

1DII has sealing, response time, viewfinder, blackout time, AF performance in tough situations (low light, with TCs), high-ISO to 3200, low ISO performance, battery life, price, dual slots/1D* build, and 1.3x crop as advantages.

The 7D has modern interfaces, higher isos, ISO 6400 performance, movie mode, live view, modern trimmings (micro adjust, large screen, Li-on batteries, much better jpeg mode), faster write speeds, simpler interface, ability to use ef-S lenses, much higher pixel density in case you can't afford/carry long glass, and size/weight.

Seriously, take a look at the search bar. This has been done to death. You should be able to find a 1DII for ~650$, and the 1DIIn is closer to 900$, which is silly for the larger screen and jpeg modes (plus +2 buffer and -S compatibility). A new 7D is ~1400. With that 800$ saved get lenses.


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Sep 18, 2011 03:56 |  #18

Sp1207 wrote in post #13118294 (external link)
There's a ton of threads on this. I think it needs a sticky:

1DII has sealing, response time, viewfinder, blackout time, AF performance in tough situations (low light, with TCs), high-ISO to 3200, low ISO performance, battery life, price, dual slots/1D* build, and 1.3x crop as advantages.

The 7D has modern interfaces, higher isos, ISO 6400 performance, movie mode, live view, modern trimmings (micro adjust, large screen, Li-on batteries, much better jpeg mode), faster write speeds, simpler interface, ability to use ef-S lenses, much higher pixel density in case you can't afford/carry long glass, and size/weight.

Seriously, take a look at the search bar. This has been done to death. You should be able to find a 1DII for ~650$, and the 1DIIn is closer to 900$, which is silly for the larger screen and jpeg modes (plus +2 buffer and -S compatibility). A new 7D is ~1400. With that 800$ saved get lenses.


Looks like Im sold! 1D2N it is. Well if I find one! My 1Ds is so limiting in terms of ISO but everyone is saying its one stop better. Not totally convinced. Thanks for the response guys! im not really too keen on going back to 1.6crop


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Sep 18, 2011 10:53 as a reply to  @ PrinceAbubu's post |  #19

The 7D is plenty weather sealed.


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Sep 18, 2011 11:28 |  #20

Pink Avocado wrote in post #13122185 (external link)
The 7D is plenty weather sealed.

http://www.fredmiranda​.com/forum/topic/10441​59/0#9919816 (external link)

When I talk about ISO performance, make sure you realize I'm talking about shooting raw then applying NR in post, then comparing at the same viewing size. There's a good 40D vs 1DII vs 5DII vs 7D thread on these boards. If you shoot Jpeg the 7D will be a lot better than the 1DII.


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Sep 18, 2011 13:10 |  #21

The 1DmkIII is about the same (used) as for a new 7d and grip. The 1DmkIII is a better body in most respects than the 7d unless you need video. I've owned all three bodies (1DmkIIn, 7d and 1DmkIII) and now that the mkIII is affordable, I say go for it (and skip the mkIIn).


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Sep 18, 2011 13:39 |  #22

twoshadows wrote in post #13122634 (external link)
The 1DmkIII is about the same (used) as for a new 7d and grip. The 1DmkIII is a better body in most respects than the 7d unless you need video. I've owned all three bodies (1DmkIIn, 7d and 1DmkIII) and now that the mkIII is affordable, I say go for it (and skip the mkIIn).

That would be my choice. I'd put the 7d last on the list. Only if you are reach limited would I pick up the 7d. I've owned both the 7d and 1d2n, and the focus tracking and image quality out of the 1d2n is much better than the 7d. Weather sealing tops it off.




  
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Sep 18, 2011 14:21 |  #23

twoshadows wrote in post #13122634 (external link)
The 1DmkIII is about the same (used) as for a new 7d and grip. The 1DmkIII is a better body in most respects than the 7d unless you need video. I've owned all three bodies (1DmkIIn, 7d and 1DmkIII) and now that the mkIII is affordable, I say go for it (and skip the mkIIn).

The 1DIII goes for 2200 used..that's in the same bracket as the 5D2..




  
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Sep 18, 2011 15:23 |  #24

cassidyphuey wrote in post #13122876 (external link)
The 1DIII goes for 2200 used..that's in the same bracket as the 5D2..

You can get them for a lot less than that (~$1800) but that's still over double what I paid for my 1DIIN.


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Sep 18, 2011 15:38 |  #25

cassidyphuey wrote in post #13122876 (external link)
The 1DIII goes for 2200 used..that's in the same bracket as the 5D2..

I just last month bought a very clean one with under 37k on the shutter for 1800. I've seen them go from $1700-$2100, with $1800 being about average. :)


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Sep 18, 2011 15:45 |  #26

theextremist04 wrote in post #13123089 (external link)
You can get them for a lot less than that (~$1800) but that's still over double what I paid for my 1DIIN.

No doubt it costs more, but you do get almost 2 stops of better iso performance out of the mkIII (imo of course). :)


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Sep 18, 2011 16:16 |  #27

No question...the 7D




  
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Sep 18, 2011 17:11 |  #28

I wonder how many people recommending the 7d actually used a 1-series camera? The responsiveness of the 1d2n / 1d3 cannot be matched with the 7d. Same goes with image quality. Only reason to get the 7d is if you are distance limited and the extra "reach" with the 1.6 crop gets you there.




  
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Sep 18, 2011 17:34 |  #29

The 1DII is availible used for ~600$ all the time, and has ~85% of the raw-processed ISO performance of the 1DIII.


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Sep 18, 2011 17:45 |  #30

Hogloff wrote in post #13123442 (external link)
I wonder how many people recommending the 7d actually used a 1-series camera? The responsiveness of the 1d2n / 1d3 cannot be matched with the 7d. Same goes with image quality. Only reason to get the 7d is if you are distance limited and the extra "reach" with the 1.6 crop gets you there.

Considering I have both (1Ds II that is), I recommended the 7D based on the cusomization of the AF system, all cross type AF points, newer seals, lighter, better batteries, better high ISO performance, and the MAIN KICKER, newer and 100 times better interface. If you're basing your decision on the images in the dedicated threads, you're mostly wrong. Some people know how to post process, and others don't. Some shoot JPEG SOC, and some shoot RAW. Again, no brainer, 7D.


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