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Sep 19, 2011 23:42 |  #1

I have a shoot coming up with a nude model. She doesn't know what she wants aesthetically (wtf, right?) but at the same time neither do I. Being that this is my first nude shoot, I'm putting positive energy out there that everything will go fine.
Right now I plan on using my 580exII with a 28in Apollo softbox im thinking of purchasing and am concerned that it wouldn't provide enough light. I've heard of photographers using the 50in, but the [rude} sales person at B&H insisted that with one speedlight, it wouldn't provide enough light for the softbox.
Does anyone have any experience with using a 580exII and a westcott 50in apollo indoors?




  
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Sep 20, 2011 05:24 |  #2

tripl3distill3d wrote in post #13131300 (external link)
I have a shoot coming up with a nude model. She doesn't know what she wants aesthetically (wtf, right?) but at the same time neither do I. Being that this is my first nude shoot, I'm putting positive energy out there that everything will go fine.
Right now I plan on using my 580exII with a 28in Apollo softbox im thinking of purchasing and am concerned that it wouldn't provide enough light. I've heard of photographers using the 50in, but the [rude} sales person at B&H insisted that with one speedlight, it wouldn't provide enough light for the softbox.
Does anyone have any experience with using a 580exII and a westcott 50in apollo indoors?

How much room do you have, and what sort of studio or semi-studio internals do you already have?

If you have a decent white reflector (big square of foam core will do), and a chaise-lounge type thing, set the softy to the right, have her lie down facing you on her right side, so her face is far from the softy, but facing it.

Have the reflector to the left and move it circularly to the front as needed.
The pose allow for her modesty if she wishes (the upper leg drapes forward to show bum-curve, but no fuzz). If she gets racier, you can have her perched on the front edge of the seat, legs spread (adjust softy-box forwards to allow for this).

I think you'll find the flash will be good in that setting, it'll cane the batteries though, make sure you have another one or two sets fully charged.




  
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Sep 20, 2011 10:58 as a reply to  @ Fluffbutt's post |  #3

She's taking care of the location but hasn't told me the specifics despite my inquiries. I'm sure I'll have enough space but I dislike not knowing the specifics of a location.
I get a idea of what you are illustrating. That setup is with the softbox right?




  
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Sep 20, 2011 11:50 |  #4

I'm gonna go ahead and regurgitate some more Zack Arias quotes.

On the westcott apollo 50 inch: "There are photographers and camera store employees that will tell you that you cannot use a hotshoe flash with a softbox this size. They say you need a larger light to use it. To them I say... Whatever."

And: "Don't worry about what light you have. Think about what light you make."

I think, that even if a 580exII can't fill up a 28 or 50 inch softbox, it may still create a pretty cool look. I'm sure that none of my current flashes are capable of filling up my 60 inch umbrella, but I still use it. And I love it.


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Sep 20, 2011 13:22 |  #5

It's VERY possible to use the 50" with a hot shoe flash. I just have got the 50", and popped a few shots with the Vivitar 285 and it works quite well. I'm not a technical junky though. I don't know or care if the light fills the box, or if it's perfectly even. Those things just aren't important for my style of shooting.

Bring extra batteries, though, because you won't be at the lowest power on the flash unless you want a very shallow depth of field.


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Sep 20, 2011 13:36 |  #6

Mr.Beast wrote in post #13133580 (external link)
I'm gonna go ahead and regurgitate some more Zack Arias quotes.

On the westcott apollo 50 inch: "There are photographers and camera store employees that will tell you that you cannot use a hotshoe flash with a softbox this size. They say you need a larger light to use it. To them I say... Whatever."

And: "Don't worry about what light you have. Think about what light you make."

I think, that even if a 580exII can't fill up a 28 or 50 inch softbox, it may still create a pretty cool look. I'm sure that none of my current flashes are capable of filling up my 60 inch umbrella, but I still use it. And I love it.

Zack is great. I actually got the idea from his One Light DVD.
I'm not concerned about necessarily filling up the softbox, but wouldn't want to create problems for myself (even though sometimes it is the best way to learn.)




  
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Sep 20, 2011 13:39 |  #7

alabama1980 wrote in post #13134217 (external link)
It's VERY possible to use the 50" with a hot shoe flash. I just have got the 50", and popped a few shots with the Vivitar 285 and it works quite well. I'm not a technical junky though. I don't know or care if the light fills the box, or if it's perfectly even. Those things just aren't important for my style of shooting.

Bring extra batteries, though, because you won't be at the lowest power on the flash unless you want a very shallow depth of field.


I'm glad to hear this.




  
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Sep 21, 2011 14:28 as a reply to  @ tripl3distill3d's post |  #8

Best of luck to you I did my first shoot and well lets say it didn't turn out that good. Mostly using a remote flash 3 430 EX II two unbreallas, back let the bask drop I had. Which was portable, the biggest thing I think was just to keep shooting and also some modeling lights would have helped I believe big time. Those can be made pretty easy.


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Sep 21, 2011 18:07 |  #9

tripl3distill3d wrote in post #13133305 (external link)
She's taking care of the location but hasn't told me the specifics despite my inquiries. I'm sure I'll have enough space but I dislike not knowing the specifics of a location.
I get a idea of what you are illustrating. That setup is with the softbox right?

I would really make sure you're not being set up to be mugged or possibly set up for being accused of something else by not being specific about the location. If it is remote with no witnesses or help it would not offer you much protection if things started to get ugly.

I hope things go well but it's better to be safe than sorry.

BTW, I have used one of my YN-560 speedlights in my 55" Octo and it worked fine so I wouldn't worry about wether your 580 is powerful enough to do likewise.


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Sep 21, 2011 18:51 |  #10

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I would really make sure you're not being set up to be mugged or possibly set up for being accused of something else by not being specific about the location. If it is remote with no witnesses or help it would not offer you much protection if things started to get ugly.

Thanks for the concern. It's going to be a shoot with my ex-girlfriend so I'm not too worried. I even joked with her about trying to pull something like that (poor victims of shady craigslist connections.)




  
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Sep 21, 2011 22:57 |  #11

talk about weird... Having your ex post nude. :)


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