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Church Pictures, Where I went Wrong?

 
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Oct 02, 2011 18:45 |  #1

So I was shooting some family photos at my brothers baptism. Was using my T2i, 17-55 at 3.5 ISO 400-800 1/100th or so shutter and my 430EXII bounced off ceiling with some FEC applied.

The church was pretty big, so using the flash at my main source was probably impossible which is why I was mixing ambient and flash. Although I forgot my bounce card at home for some direct flash.

Anyways, I'm somewhat satisfied, although I'm sure better can be done. What is going on with the blueish haze behind the subjects on the back wall? I'm assuming from the flash? I've never seen that before and I'd like to correct my technique.

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Oct 02, 2011 19:15 |  #2

Your second shot is the better of the two.

It looks clearer, you have their attention, the color is good, background is good. None of those seem evident in the first shot.

Suggestions? Go to portrait mode for portraits. People are the subject here, not the church.

Get closer and fill the frame with the subject and watch the background.


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Oct 02, 2011 19:27 |  #3

In the first one, I'd like to see more of the Mom's face. Simply slight recomposition.

I like the second shot pretty well. While they are centered (slight off center is usually better), they are both leaning in towards each other which lends intimacy to the shot. That was nice. The baby is in clear view, no one obstructed. Nice expressions too!


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Oct 02, 2011 19:31 |  #4

Sorry guys, bad first picture to post. That was one of my throw aways...I posted it because I was trying to figure out what the blueish was in the background...but yes recompose the shot and get subjects attention..I Know.... here is the better one I took

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Oct 02, 2011 19:37 |  #5

Concerning that blue haze, what was your wb set to and did you color correct your flash with a gel? I see some incandescent and a small bit of daylight coming in the window. What was the dominant source if there was one?? Color correcting in a church can be real tricky.

I am not a fan of the background choice in the first one. The second one is much better in that regard. The subjects are not arranged very well in the first one and also seem to be looking at another photographer. Both photos have shiny skin on the subjects which is easily corrected in post. Overall I think they turned out pretty good considering what you were working with. Churches are pretty tough.


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Oct 02, 2011 19:42 |  #6

I had my WB set to auto, and I usually fix in post. So for example that last shot was 4600 AS SHOT, and when I up it to around 5600 it looks better with skin tons and even helps with the blueish haze.

Churches are hard!


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Oct 02, 2011 19:58 |  #7

maybe its just me but they look alittle out of focus. the second one needs to straitened.


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Oct 02, 2011 20:04 |  #8

I may be wrong but the blue kind of looks like a color cast from reflection from something blue in the room reflecting the flash. I noticed the stain glass window in the one. It was in the wrong place to reflect since it was behind the subject but possible that something else may have thrown that color??




  
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Oct 02, 2011 20:08 |  #9

Color correct them for the subjects faces. Crop to portrait. If you have CS or ACR lift the shadows using the highlight tools.

Looks pretty good.


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Oct 03, 2011 10:33 as a reply to  @ S.Horton's post |  #10

There's a bit much headroom for me, and also both pictures are slanting slightly down to the right, so I'd correct for those factors. As for the blue tinge, it looks like your camera is white balancing for the incandescent lights of the church, so the exterior light coming through the windows is coming off blue. Though even for that, the image if awfully orange, though that might just be the color of the church... dunno. But in split light scenarios like this, it's nearly impossible to balance both light sources without a sh*tton of gels.


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Oct 03, 2011 11:40 |  #11

probably look better shot vertical vs horizontal. crop tighter.


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Oct 03, 2011 11:48 |  #12

The composition of the second picture is the best of the three. Mom and Dad are both looking at your camera. Fix the tilt. Try to avoid the entrance doors in #1 and #3 next time.


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