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Brandon ­ Anderson ­ Photos
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Oct 05, 2011 20:49 |  #1

had this sent to me today.


http://atlanta.craigsl​ist.org/atl/tlg/261334​2389.html (external link)


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Oct 05, 2011 20:50 |  #2

Nominated for best of. q


Eager idiot photographer extraordinaire.

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Oct 05, 2011 20:53 |  #3

Yeah but those who the jab is aimed at , well lets just say all they will hear is the whirring sound going over their head and continue to ask for freebies.


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Oct 05, 2011 21:00 as a reply to  @ Joe Ravenstein's post |  #4

haha - nice one.


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Oct 05, 2011 22:00 |  #5

:lol: :lol:


That is great. Poignant, as I am going through this debacle with a friend of mine right now.




  
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Oct 06, 2011 00:07 |  #6

Perfect timing as this posting went up on our local CL today:

http://nh.craigslist.o​rg/crs/2633396613.html (external link)

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Cheap azz photographer (Southern NH )
Date: 2011-10-05, 6:02AM EDT
Reply to: serv-tfthh-2633396613@craigslist.​org (external link) [Errors when replying to ads?]
Take your cheap as, no pro gear. Not legally registered photography company somewhere else.

You people know who you are. You wanna do pro work.

Buy pro gear
Get insurance
Get registered

You don't wanna do those three things you don't deserve the clients.

* Location: Southern NH
* it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests


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Oct 06, 2011 12:25 |  #7

great idea!
I need my carpeting redone... maybe someone will do it for free, in exchange for pictures of their work so they can show their work to others!


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Oct 06, 2011 13:55 |  #8

SMP_Homer wrote in post #13213601 (external link)
great idea!
I need my carpeting redone... maybe someone will do it for free, in exchange for pictures of their work so they can show their work to others!

And at the same time, they are also showing your work! Clever marketing technique you have there.


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Oct 07, 2011 05:43 |  #9

SMP_Homer wrote in post #13213601 (external link)
great idea!
I need my carpeting redone... maybe someone will do it for free, in exchange for pictures of their work so they can show their work to others!

That's actually bartering, so it's good for everyone involved....assuming your photography services have a similar market value as their carpet and/or installation.

When I use a location that's a business or borrow props from shops for example, I mention them in photo captions and such to send customers their way. Sometimes I'll shoot photos of the location itself if it's for sale and provide those to the owner or realtor. I don't have actual cash out that way, and word of mouth advertising is beneficial to them.


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Oct 08, 2011 02:00 |  #10

Nice find!


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Oct 11, 2011 06:09 |  #11

Haha!




  
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Oct 12, 2011 11:36 |  #12

cdifoto wrote in post #13216667 (external link)
That's actually bartering, so it's good for everyone involved....assuming your photography services have a similar market value as their carpet and/or installation.

When I use a location that's a business or borrow props from shops for example, I mention them in photo captions and such to send customers their way. Sometimes I'll shoot photos of the location itself if it's for sale and provide those to the owner or realtor. I don't have actual cash out that way, and word of mouth advertising is beneficial to them.

Just be sure you're not trading with an IRS (or state income tax) agent, or state sales tax agent.

You're still required to report the value of the services performed as revenues to you, and it's very possible the work you received won't be a DEDUCTIBLE expense, since it could be personal in nature (i.e. someone painting your house). If they performed a service for your business, then that part would be an expense to you.

Stugotzo, CPA (licensed in NY since 1991). ;)


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Oct 12, 2011 13:11 as a reply to  @ stugotzo's post |  #13

The CL ad is funny, but keep in mind that there is a reason people ask for free photos but not free painting or work on their car or whatever. If you are trying to make a living as a photographer understanding your potential customers (instead of simply denigrating them) is critical.


  
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Oct 18, 2011 02:52 as a reply to  @ mpix345's post |  #14

Actually he doesn't get it. Here's the sad reality:

John Doe wants to become a photographer by trade because his desk job sucks and because photography is fun.

John Doe needs to build a photo portfolio to impress future clients so he volunteers to shoot for free to gain the experience and interesting subject material

John Doe, after years of hard work, is now an expert and has a nice portfolio. So he wants to do it for a living now, but nobody will pay him because Jane Doe, a novice, just got off the bus from Kentucky and is willing to work for free to gain experience just like John did in the beginning.

So John Doe curses Jane and tells her what a loser she is for working pro Bono.

John Doe is a hypocrite and hasn't figured it out that if the job is fun there will be 100X more people eager to do the work than there are people willing to pay for it.

Moral to the story: don't quit your day job.




  
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Oct 18, 2011 11:54 |  #15

I think we all have worked for free at some point. Im fine with people telling me "Well John Smith said he would do my wedding pictures for $100" My response is simply "If you pay $100 expect a $100 job" and I smile.

Then I get the confused look from the client. Then we talk business.... ;-)a


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