AlanU wrote in post #13224136
if your gonna consider the 5dmk3 I'd imagine it'd be in the 3000 range so a 5dmk2 at the moment is insanely cheap. However your lens list it seriously lacks primes.
I'd suggest a 24L. Its great on a crop and the perspective you get with a FF is very pleasing IMO. 35L is a super safe bet with normal perspective on either format. Since I purchased a 24L I can see a different flavor in my style compared to using my 35L.
For your current options I'd say 35L and 50 f/1.4. This opens up low light available light shooting. Canon 50 f/1.4 is acceptably sharp at f/1.4 even to a pixel peeper IMO but if you pixel peep a 50L you better change your attitude. I look at the canon 50 f/1.4 as a good lens that will get upgraded when canon comes out with a 50 f/1.4 mk2 or until 50Lmk2 comes out in a decade or so LOL!!!
24 is out of question since I use that Fl almost never.
I love everything of the 35 (having tried it) but the size and weathersealing absence. but really the size and shape it's really bothering me, I know sounds silly but it's like that.
though it still tempt me because I could get both the 35 and 50 1.4 for a little more than the 50 1.2 itself...that's the only thing positive for this option.
I used the 50 1.4 thoroughly and well I was not happy...not much...sure it delivered some good pictures but bokeh is terrible (at least on the copy i used) and USM on mine was ugly
marcosv wrote in post #13225014
My buddy with a 7D and I with my 5D2 went through a similar exercise recently, trying to decide which prime to get next.
We both went with 35mm primes, but, for different reasons:
He went with 35L because he wanted a fast prime for available light and decided 50mm on an APS-C sensor was too tight, since he doesn't do that many classic head/torso portraits.
I went with a 35/2 because I wanted a small, fast prime for shallow DOF, but, wanted enough background in the image for environmental and so a 35mm was better than a 50mm on a full frame sensor. I bought the 35/2 because it was really small and my buddy already bought the 35L which I can borrow whenever I need it. That saved me a lot of money so that I can buy a 50L or 85L a lot sooner than later.
In short: I recommend the 35L unless you want to do portraits with your 7D.
If you decide to go 5D2, I recommend embracing the joys of non-L Canon primes. I got a 35/2, 50/1.4, and 100/2. These are *really* small compared to L glass. You can bring your zooms and a few primes without overloading your camera bag. A 85/1.8 is also a good choice over the 100/2, especially if you go 100 macro. More importantly, non-L primes are cheap enough that you can buy them shortly after going full frame.
i can see the joy on the 85-100 non L lenses, i've tried them and they are indeed beautiful...but I dont use them much and wont buy them in the short time...my 70-200 is just incredible and when I need it I put it on my camera and vavaaavuuum. that's the only lens where I pulled the trigger immediately as I had the money, no thoughts no regrets.
rick_reno wrote in post #13225019
I wouldn't concern myself with the 5d3, you can't buy what doesn't exist. buying glass now and waiting a year for prices/availability/reviews on whatever Canon releases would be what I'd do.
yeah I know but as soon as a new FF arrives (if it will be a bit more kind with the sport aspect of photography) I'll pull the trigger
DreDaze wrote in post #13225212
if you're sticking with a crop...maybe the sigma 30mm f1.4? it's pretty small compared to the L, and it's said to perform well
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The only thing keeping me from buying the 30 sigma is the possibility of going FF in the next 6 months or 8 maaaaximum...dont wanna stick with 1.6x for another year...maybe just keeping it for FL reach, that's it.
I've consider it, very nice little lens...but for me, here where I live, selling used stuff it's a pain in the ass almost...so If I can I buy once, once good and stop.
28 1.8 as stated below is another option I'm considering, though it's a bit too wide for me...still considering it though
Bananapie wrote in post #13225751
You mention that you don't machine gun the 7D, but are worried about the 5Dii for sports. Could you clear this up for me a little bit please? =D
The gap between the 7D and the 5D2 autofocus isn't as wide as some people make it out to be, especially when we are talking centerpoint and apertures above 4.
yeah sorry a bit misleading...
I mean that i don't shoot like crazy but I fully use the 7D's sport capabilities when it's necessary.
for example on panning which I love to do I thoroughly use the superb 8fps she can deliver!
I also fully use it for flash panning shots...
but the more important thing is the tracking...sometimes in some spots the center af single point (which I 90-95% use) just doesnt get it and I must use the ai servo. not everytime but when I need it my 7D never let me down.
amfoto1 wrote in post #13225768
28/1.8 - very compact & the slightly wide view is nice on crop sensor cameras.)
50/1.4 - Siggy or Canon, more versatile and the Canon is smaller/lighter/less indtrusive than the f1.2
85/1.8 or Siggy 85/1.4 - You didn't mention, but if you enjoy 50mm on crop, you will probably like this lens too.
If you have any budget remaining, I really like 20/2.8 on crop, as a walk-around lens. It's considerably larger than the 28/1.8, but a nice lens and croppers use the very best part of the lens (I use and like it on FF, too).
as said above I'm considering the 28...I like that lens tho it's a bit wider even on the crop for my taste, but still, very much considering it. you have anyway to let some bucks flying out your pocket, it's not free LOL.
amfoto1 wrote in post #13225801
Using both cameras alongside each other for the past couple years, 5D2 is nowhere near as good tracking moving subjects as 7D (or 60D, 50D, 40D, for that matter). That's the main problem trying to use 5DII with sports.
Is it possible to use a 5DII to shoot sports? Sure... but you'll get lots more missed focus shots when using AI Servo, even if just with the center AF point. Where I get 95% or better acceptible focus hits with 7D, that usually drops below 60% shooting the same subjects the same way with 5DII.
Sure, I might be able to improve on it a little if I practiced more with 5DII, but I can't afford a high percentage of camera-related focus misses... so I usually don't get the 5DII out for sports/action.
Plus the 5D's outer points (and hidden "assist/expansion" points) are not cross-type. AF speed and responsiveness drops off a lot when you switch to using any of those. Meanwhle, all 19 of the 7D's are cross-type. (All 9 of the 60D, 50D, 40D's are, too.) There's little drop in performance using other than the center point with 7D.