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1DIV or 7D?

 
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Oct 11, 2011 10:51 |  #1

Thinking of an upgrade for two reasons - better ISO performance and better file quality. Most of photography is wildlife/BIFs with some daughter pics and occasionally, landscape (though not alot).

I don't care for the video and the weight doesn't bother me.

Other than build quality - where does the 1DIV shine vs the 7d?


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Oct 11, 2011 11:16 |  #2

I think the biggest factor will be the different "multiplication factors" of each crop body - both obviously make lenses appear "longer" than on full frame but for the 1D Mark IV it's markedly less than on the 7D.

I haven't seen any "pixels on target" comparisons between the Mark IV and the 7D, but there recently was one between the 5D Mark II and the 7D, and (depending on whose pictures you were looking at) the 5D was either neck-and-neck with the 7D or slightly behind. I imagine the 7D will be further ahead here because the 1D Mark IV has a lower number of pixels than the 7D, spread out across a larger area. Good noise characteristics though.

That's it for theory - I've heard great things about AF for either camera but somebody else will have to give their thoughts on that.




  
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Oct 11, 2011 11:18 as a reply to  @ Edwin Herdman's post |  #3

And just for reference, I have a 1D3 and a 7D.

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Oct 11, 2011 11:23 |  #4

If money is not a concern, then obviously get the Mk4 and don't look back.

I might share my experience. I had the 1D3, and truth be told, it was way too much for my normal use. Then the 7D came along and it was a body that I could handle without being overwhelmed. The 7D basically falls a bit short on all areas (compared to the 1D3) except screen quality and the new spot AF. In sum, I sold my 1D3 and kept the 7D. Saving for some serious lens now... 400mm f/2.8... one day!


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Oct 11, 2011 11:24 as a reply to  @ Edwin Herdman's post |  #5

With the 1D4 you will have better ISO performance, More focal points (More advanced AF), More FPS, The ability to use CF and SD cards simultaneously, Longer batter life, and of course the 1D build as you mentioned.

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Oct 11, 2011 14:36 |  #6

Which of your two bodies produces images that you like better? How's the IQ compare? Personally, I prefer the 1d3 to the 7D, which will be apparent when you read the comments below.

Get the 1d4 and ditch the 7D. AF is better, images look better, you still will be able to ignore the video feature, dual cards and the same battery as your 1d3.

You don't hear people talking about battery life on these things much but the LPE4 battery lasts forever for me on my mk3. I got 5k shots out of one charge in July. 3k is normal.

You might wish to consider a 5d2 instead though (same battery as the 7D, so the reverse argument would apply). People rave about the files; I've never tried one.




  
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Oct 11, 2011 14:59 |  #7

svarley wrote in post #13235889 (external link)
Get the 1d4 and ditch the 7D. AF is better, images look better, you still will be able to ignore the video feature, dual cards and the same battery as your 1d3.

Did it after lunch. Looked over some comparison files from the 7D and 1d3 and bought it. Should be here tomorrow from Samy's.

For reference - I normally buy from B&H but they are sold out. Adorama has them in stock but they are $5500 plus another $100 for overnight.

Samy's, by comparison, was $4999 plus $56 to overnight to NC from California via FedEx priority. I'll have it by 10:30 tomorrow morning.


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Oct 11, 2011 16:02 |  #8

Shouldn't even be a question. 1DIV rapes the 7D hands down.


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Oct 11, 2011 16:32 as a reply to  @ AzzKicker's post |  #9

1DMarkIV


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Oct 11, 2011 17:36 |  #10

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Oct 11, 2011 18:44 |  #11

Have fun - I went the route 7D +- 1D3 -> 1D3 + 1D4 -> 5D2 + 1D4. The 1D4 runs rings around all of them in image quality, except _perhaps_ when you're using wide angle lenses.

The build quality, battery life, autofocus and everything else make it a wonderful camera.


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Oct 11, 2011 18:50 |  #12

1D4 no questions


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Oct 11, 2011 20:04 |  #13

Wait for the 1D V.


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Oct 12, 2011 17:17 |  #14

are you kidding me? if i had $$$ I'd go for 1D right away


I'm so lost

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