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Oct 14, 2011 12:10 |  #1

First I want to say thanks to everyone on the board for sharing their knowledge... evidently, I've learned so much that I'm a professional now! (OK, not really, I'm joking about the being a pro part.)

I needed some prints really quick, so I got some 4x6's printed at the Walgreens down the street. I went in to pick up my pictures and the lady spread them out on the counter and asked, "were these taken by a professional?" Her accusatory tone made me a little defensive but I guess I should have taken it as a big compliment.

Anyway, I know this is a big issue for the real pros but on the flip side, is there any way for me to avoid the hassle of having to fill out a form when I pick up my pictures? They weren't watermarked or anything (and honestly weren't all that great). That's never happened to me before, so I was really take off guard a little. I guess that's the only way for them to protect themselves??


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Oct 14, 2011 12:14 |  #2

Take it as a compliment and enjoy. Per everyone 1 congratulatory, comment you will have 10 negatory lined up right behind. Print with a local lab instead of Walgreens.


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Oct 14, 2011 12:25 |  #3

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First I want to say thanks to everyone on the board for sharing their knowledge... evidently, I've learned so much that I'm a professional now! (OK, not really, I'm joking about the being a pro part.)

I needed some prints really quick, so I got some 4x6's printed at the Walgreens down the street. I went in to pick up my pictures and the lady spread them out on the counter and asked, "were these taken by a professional?" Her accusatory tone made me a little defensive but I guess I should have taken it as a big compliment.

Anyway, I know this is a big issue for the real pros but on the flip side, is there any way for me to avoid the hassle of having to fill out a form when I pick up my pictures? They weren't watermarked or anything (and honestly weren't all that great). That's never happened to me before, so I was really take off guard a little. I guess that's the only way for them to protect themselves??

That girl should know that real pros don't print at Walgreens!:D;)
I would have to second using a dedicated photo lab. Walgreens machines will do some automatic adjustments that you may not be happy with. I did some "emergency" prints there last holiday season ("Oh NO!, we didn't get grandma anything! Quick, lets stop at a Walgreens and print up some photos of the girls and put them in an album!") and was a bit let down that they made some color/contrast/sharpen​ing adjustments that made the images look less than stellar. I asked the girl working the machine and she had no idea what I was talking about, however, I talked with someone a while later who services those machines and confirmed that they add a "special sauce" to the images to help make P&S images look a bit better. It's nothing major, but it was enough to annoy me. :confused:


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Oct 14, 2011 12:30 |  #4

A second thought that I had; I have all of my info in my EXIF(name, contact info, copyright etc.), I've never been questioned about whether the images are mine, either from Costco, Sams, Walgreens, Ritz, or any online print service. However, if it is a problem for you, you could type up a print release for yourself, sign it and carry it with you.


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Oct 14, 2011 12:34 |  #5

Fill out the metadata. That will help. More than likely, she was trying to determine if you were copying somebody's else's work. Ive had a few where they wouldn't print them.




  
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Oct 14, 2011 12:44 |  #6

kjonnnn wrote in post #13250826 (external link)
Fill out the metadata. That will help. More than likely, she was trying to determine if you were copying somebody's else's work. Ive had a few where they wouldn't print them.

I doubt it... I worked in a large retailers "photolab" in high school... I can assure you, the only thing we had to go by was looking at the photos. We didn't have access to any metadata, whether they were online orders or digital prints from the kiosk.

As for offended/complimented, you could take it as both...
A) Because she was, in a nutshell, accusing you of reprinting a pro's copyrighted work.
B) Because she was saying that your work looked professional.

However; she went about it all wrong... When attempting to catch copyright infringement; We were trained to let the customer set their own trap.

Make comments such as, "Wow, these are really nice... Where'd you get them done?" Most people would walk right into it and tell you exactly what studio took the pics, at that point, we'd request a written copyright release before releasing the prints to the customer.


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Oct 14, 2011 12:48 |  #7

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Oct 14, 2011 13:09 |  #8

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However; she went about it all wrong... When attempting to catch copyright infringement; We were trained to let the customer set their own trap.

Make comments such as, "Wow, these are really nice... Where'd you get them done?"

That would have been a lot better. While it's a little sneaky, it would have come across to me more complimentary. I would have just happily said, "oh I did them at home" and wouldn't have thought anything about it. Maybe I should suggest that technique if it happens again. :)

Also, I agree with everyone that Walgreens isn't the best place to get prints but I just needed these real quick to throw in a thank you note. Normally I'd use mpix or something.


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Oct 14, 2011 13:16 |  #9

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However, if it is a problem for you, you could type up a print release for yourself, sign it and carry it with you.

Wouldn't they still make you fill out this form? I can't imagine she'd trust a release for myself any more than she trusted my word. It probably didn't help that I just got finished playing soccer, so I didn't look very "professional" at the time.


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Oct 14, 2011 13:37 |  #10

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Wouldn't they still make you fill out this form? I can't imagine she'd trust a release for myself any more than she trusted my word. It probably didn't help that I just got finished playing soccer, so I didn't look very "professional" at the time.

We printed a few of our wedding photos in town for the thank you notes. They asked at the desk for a copyright release from the tog. We showed it and they gave us our prints. Just print up a generic "XYZphotography" rights release and sign it in an illegible manner. ;)
The worst that could happen is that they think you didn't get your monies worth from the photographer!:o


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Oct 14, 2011 13:46 |  #11

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We printed a few of our wedding photos in town for the thank you notes. They asked at the desk for a copyright release from the tog. We showed it and they gave us our prints. Just print up a generic "XYZphotography" rights release and sign it in an illegible manner. ;)

I'll try to remember to carry one with me next time (like I'm going to get mistaken for a pro again :lol:).


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Oct 14, 2011 14:16 as a reply to  @ rh18's post |  #12

Thanks for the heads up.;)

nrowensby wrote in post #13250869 (external link)
...Make comments such as, "Wow, these are really nice... Where'd you get them done?" Most people would walk right into it and tell you exactly what studio took the pics, at that point, we'd request a written copyright release before releasing the prints to the customer.

Not anymore:p

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Sneaky!

I'll print my own up to 13x19, beyond that I'll order via my site from Mpix


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Oct 15, 2011 20:35 as a reply to  @ Methodical's post |  #13

Just an FYI for anyone that uses Costco. There is an option to turn "auto correct" off when you have them print your snapshots.




  
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Oct 15, 2011 20:42 |  #14

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Just an FYI for anyone that uses Costco. There is an option to turn "auto correct" off when you have them print your snapshots.

Yes, you are right. As far as I know most if not all "reputable" print services provide that option. And, it's important for photogs to know about the option and the need to exercise it if they care about having control of the printing process!


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Oct 15, 2011 23:33 |  #15

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=rh18;13250691...asked​, "were these taken by a professional?" Her accusatory tone made me a little defensive but I guess I should have taken it as a big compliment. ...


Complaining or bragging?

I'm just kidding. That used to be our standard line when, for example, a girl would complain that guys would follow her down the street, when someone said that their surfboard felt stiff in triple-overhead surf, or when someone would complain that their car had very slow acceleration from 120 mph on up.

Own it! It's a huge compliment, even if it comes from a store clerk. You probably had the same look on your face as when my wife gets carded at a bar.


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