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Oct 19, 2011 06:11 as a reply to  @ post 13272480 |  #586

As a matter of fact, those bigger pixels are better pixels. Considering that I got nifty 13X19 print images from the original 4.15 megapixels, I suspect Canon made the decision to aim for quality over quantity.

While I would be surprised that they dropped AF at f8, many of us have been scraping by manually focusing the big lenses on lesser cameras using TCs. Gosh, maybe the focus confirmation is improved.

It will take a few field tests to see. I won't be placing an order until first adopters have wrung it out.


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Oct 19, 2011 06:20 |  #587

primoz wrote in post #13266055 (external link)
Wrong ;) 1.3x is pretty cool compromise between long and wide lenses. Sure with 1.6x you go much longer on long side, but you have problems with wide lenses. With FF it's the opposite, and 1.3x is pretty cool compromise between these two. But I agree I'm looking this from my point of view (shooting 99% of pro sport, and very little of other PJ work).

I disagree; at least with 1.6x you had a lens system designed around it. Wide = 10-22 etc. With 1.3x there was nothing, sure your long lens needs now became less onerous in some situations, ie; 400/2.8 becomes 300/2.8 - but to be honest, everyone still just kept shooting their 400/2.8s anyway and got used to the tightness.

The problem with 1.3x has always been there is no wides - 16-35 necomes a 20-45 or so, which these days for impact all the Nikon guys are getting way more FoV with their 14-24s etc. So instead we all carry a 1Ds/5D for the wides, but that means an extra camera which doesn't have the frame rate - a 1-trick pony.

There are three things I will miss with the 1D 1.3 series:
1) SD cards - makes it easier to distinguish if you're shooting different formats to different cards when they are all in your pocket later.
2) AF @ f/8.
3) The relative spread of the AF points - actually quite a big one for me, so I will probably hang on to a Mark IV for the times when this really assists with my work-flow.


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Oct 19, 2011 06:22 as a reply to  @ cwphoto's post |  #588

ISO 50 (native) would have been nice too. I would find that more useful than 50k for sure.


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Oct 19, 2011 06:24 as a reply to  @ cwphoto's post |  #589

Anyone hear anything about the x-sync? Hope they were able to keep 1/300s, but I'm not confident..


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Oct 19, 2011 06:25 |  #590

advaitin wrote in post #13272495 (external link)
As a matter of fact, those bigger pixels are better pixels. Considering that I got nifty 13X19 print images from the original 4.15 megapixels, I suspect Canon made the decision to aim for quality over quantity.

One of the quotes attributed to Canon was this one ......

" There is more to image quality than resolution. "

Each individual pixel on the 1DX sensor is larger, that makes it better overall.

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There are three things I will miss with the 1D 1.3 series:
1) SD cards - makes it easier to distinguish if you're shooting different formats to different cards when they are all in your pocket later.

What?

No more SD card in Canon's professional camera?

This won't go over well with the " CF is dead, here comes SD " folks.

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Oct 19, 2011 06:31 as a reply to  @ cwphoto's post |  #591

I think this is cool and a very attractive feature .....

Another change to the 1D X's storage is the addition of an Ethernet 1000 Base-T network port. This allows faster transfer speeds and the use of longer cables (the limit is 100m, rather than around 3.5m for USB).




  
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Oct 19, 2011 06:35 |  #592

cwphoto wrote in post #13272519 (external link)
Anyone hear anything about the x-sync? Hope they were able to keep 1/300s, but I'm not confident..

http://www.usa.canon.c​om …110EO02001#Spec​ifications (external link)

Full specs say 1/250th.


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Oct 19, 2011 06:55 |  #593

Are people here really saying that this camera won't be able to autofocus at apertures smaller than f/8?


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Oct 19, 2011 06:59 |  #594

cfibanez wrote in post #13272595 (external link)
Are people here really saying that this camera won't be able to autofocus at apertures smaller than f/8?

Yes




  
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Oct 19, 2011 07:04 |  #595

cfibanez wrote in post #13272595 (external link)
Are people here really saying that this camera won't be able to autofocus at apertures smaller than f/8?

I don't think so.

My read is that the AF points are grouped so that more work as cross points as you increase the maximum aperture of the lens, so they all work with a lens of F2.8 or wider, then a few stop working for an f4 lens etc.

So I think with an F2.8 lens set at F8 you get all the points working at full function.

AFAIK several other Canon cameras have similar points that only give full function with wide lenses, only with many less points so I don't think we can assume the AF will outperform anything Canon have made so far in every way.

To go at this another way. AF is pretty straightforward at F8.




  
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Oct 19, 2011 07:12 |  #596

magwai wrote in post #13272617 (external link)
I don't think so.

My read is that the AF points are grouped so that more work as cross points as you increase the maximum aperture of the lens, so they all work with a lens of F2.8 or wider, then a few stop working for an f4 lens etc.

So I think with an F2.8 lens set at F8 you get all the points working at full function.

AFAIK several other Canon cameras have similar points that only give full function with wide lenses, only with many less points so I don't think we can assume the AF will outperform anything Canon have made so far in every way.

To go at this another way. AF is pretty straightforward at F8.

The current EOS-1D/Ds can AF with a lens @ f/8 or brighter with the centre point only. This feature appears to have disappeared for the X.

FYI; all lenses AF wide-open - there is no concept of AF for a f/2.8 lens @ f/8 etc.


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Oct 19, 2011 07:13 |  #597

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I think this is the camera people have been wanting for a long time!

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Oct 19, 2011 07:20 |  #598

magwai wrote in post #13272617 (external link)
So I think with an F2.8 lens set at F8 you get all the points working at full function.

An EF lens will always AF at its maximum aperture, it will only close to lets say f/8 when you press the trigger.


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Oct 19, 2011 08:22 |  #599

WTF?! 40 pages and nobody knows for sure what those four buttons in front are for?!

That's half an hour of my life I'm not going to get back. :p

The how-many-more-MPs-can-we-give-you-that-you-won't-use-but-you-can-brag-about thing was getting really boring, so stepping back to 18 MP with larger photosites definitely floats my boat, if they deliver on the low-noise promise. I'd love to see a significant jump in DR, although I'm not holding my breath.

I'm not crazy about the dual CF slots - I like the versatility that the SD slot gives my 1Ds3, and besides, wouldn't an Eye-fi card fulfil the wi-fi and geotagging functions without plugging anything else to the side of the body?

Still and all, I'd been toying around with the idea of a 1D4, but I just like FF too much. I was bracing for a $10,000+ monster and I'm pleasantly surprised by the price tag. I mighyt have a play around when it comes out, and if it doesn't pan out I can always get a second 1Ds3 at a good price.


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Oct 19, 2011 08:25 |  #600

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I've got a kid coming in Feb 2012

Congrats, Nick! My first is due at the beginning of January - I might have to get a new shutter for the 1Ds3 by March - it's already got 40k actuations. :mrgreen:


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