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Oct 22, 2011 22:08 |  #1

I have the sigma 12-24, I love shooting wide.

My question is, what fast and ultra wide might be a good choice for me?

When I had the 7D I loved the sigma 8-16 paired with my Tokina 11-16.

I would not be opposed to a prime. I would like the fast for shooting nightscapes and night sky shots.

Am considering the 14mm but right now am loathe to spend that kind of money on a lens.


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Oct 22, 2011 22:10 |  #2

gagakango wrote in post #13291446 (external link)
I would like the fast for shooting nightscapes and night sky shots.

Aren't these commonly done on tripods?




  
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Oct 22, 2011 22:11 |  #3

there is the samyang 14mm f2.8...


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Oct 22, 2011 22:13 |  #4

Done on tripods but unless you feel like stacking or boosting iso it is nicer to have faster


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Oct 22, 2011 22:32 |  #5

Some people get get results using the Tokina 11-16mm 2.8 at 15-16mm on Full Frame cameras: https://photography-on-the.net …p?p=10978016#po​st10978016


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Oct 22, 2011 22:43 |  #6

Thanks msowsun, interesting. makes me wish i hadn't sold mine but it was part of getting the 5d2


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Oct 22, 2011 22:49 |  #7

Samyang 14mm is amazing. If you can deal with MF. Sharpest UWA I have used by far and only cost me $300.


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Oct 22, 2011 22:55 |  #8

Where does one find the samyang?


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Oct 22, 2011 22:56 |  #9

gagakango wrote in post #13291446 (external link)
I have the sigma 12-24, I love shooting wide.

My question is, what fast and ultra wide might be a good choice for me?

When I had the 7D I loved the sigma 8-16 paired with my Tokina 11-16.

I would not be opposed to a prime. I would like the fast for shooting nightscapes and night sky shots.

Am considering the 14mm but right now am loathe to spend that kind of money on a lens.

The sigma 12-24mm is not fast... Max aperture at 12mm is 4.5, and considering field curvature and border IQ are so absolutely horrible at 12mm, it needs to be stopped down to f/9-f/13 to be acceptable.

You don't NEED a fast lens for landscapes, but you do need a lens that gives acceptable border IQ (especially for landscapes)... and usually the faster it is, the wider you can use it with acceptable outcome. The Samyang 14mm defies everything by being razor sharp across the field at 2.8.


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Oct 22, 2011 22:59 |  #10

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …tra_Wide_Angle_​f_2_8.html (external link)

http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …4mm_f_2_8_Ultra​_Wide.html (external link)

It goes under the name of bower and rokinon as well. A lot of other names, too.




  
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Oct 22, 2011 23:04 |  #11

Here (external link) is a comparison of the samyang 14 f/2.8 vs the 14L and 16-35L. I ordered one last week, for astrophotography and landscape shooting :lol:


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Oct 22, 2011 23:11 |  #12

thanks for all the help.. I think that is the price range and lens i would be looking for!

And yes, the sigma is not fast. I like it outside in the day. it is wiiiiide


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Oct 23, 2011 01:03 |  #13

TC_Fenua wrote in post #13291607 (external link)
Here (external link) is a comparison of the samyang 14 f/2.8 vs the 14L and 16-35L. I ordered one last week, for astrophotography and landscape shooting :lol:

Oh wow, those edges are crazy. I previously owned the Samyang, but with my 30D's stock screen, manual focus was just not happening. That, along with issues of the focusing ring being out of alignment led to me selling it. When you lock focus though, it is definitely a masterpiece of a lens.


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Oct 23, 2011 01:10 |  #14

artemisn wrote in post #13292014 (external link)
Oh wow, those edges are crazy. I previously owned the Samyang, but with my 30D's stock screen, manual focus was just not happening. That, along with issues of the focusing ring being out of alignment led to me selling it. When you lock focus though, it is definitely a masterpiece of a lens.

The differences are even more striking when you compare it on FF bodies.

Not sure what the stock screen and MF has to do with anything. You can pretty much just stick it on one setting for anything 6+ feet away.


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Oct 23, 2011 09:42 |  #15

I got the Bell and Howell name of the Samyang for $279 or something off Amazon from Beach. It has gone up to $320 or more since. Don't spend more for the other names, they are identical!

The IQ is amazing. I am blown away by how sharp it is. It may be the sharpest lens I own honestly, not even joking. At 100% the details are insane. It has some distortion but easily corrected in LR with profiles available online. I set the lens at the hyperfocal distance and f/8 and don't worry about AF. All is in focus anyway.

Best value lens I have ever used. Incredible IQ, no CA, good flare resistance and great build. For under $300? I would never consider the 14L anymore.

The only bad part is that the focus scale is generally wrong on all these lenses. So you must rely on live view focusing or just using hyperfocal distances.


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