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Oct 30, 2011 21:07 |  #1

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Oct 30, 2011 21:08 |  #2

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Oct 30, 2011 21:09 |  #3

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Oct 30, 2011 21:20 |  #4

need some posing better lighting and more blurred back grounds. Just my take.


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Oct 31, 2011 09:14 |  #5

So, you're saying you personally would like to see more bokeh? I guess I should've shot at f2.8 but I always worry about DOF, forgetting that the further away from the subj I am, the greater the DOF. If I'm about 10ft away from her, I probably would have had enough DOF even at 2.8, correct?




  
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Oct 31, 2011 09:48 |  #6

Yes. Also better poses and lighting. What you using for your lighting? Seems quite harsh.


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Oct 31, 2011 09:58 |  #7

Used a 430ex in a softbox off-camera triggered by 580ex...




  
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Oct 31, 2011 11:32 |  #8

Here's my take on them. The pool shots are a cool idea! They look odd though as the water is green and really really dark. If you used flash here, you should be able to back it up some so that the area around her is more evenly lit. Youll have to turn the flash up or bump your ISO if youre already at max power. This effect is caused by the inverse square law that light drops off faster closer to the source. So right now, if the flash is close to her, the water and lane divider (sorry im not a swimmer, i dont know the proper name) is dark, even though its close behind her. So she might be properly exposed at F4.0 but the background is a full stop darker and needs 2.8 for proper exposure. (just random numbers) If you back the light up and turn it up (or bump ISO) then her and the water will be properly exposed at the same aperture. The crops on these are too tight for me and she is too centered. This is a taste thing but the severe tilt on the second doesnt do it for me either. Sometimes tilts work but I dont think they ever do on a tight tight shot like this. The water reflections on her face are distracting to me too. I dont know what to do about them if there was someone else in the pool. If you could, maybe get access first thing in the morning when the water is really calm and have her slip in as easily as possible and then pose her and wait for the water to calm? I think these could be great, they just need some more pop to them. They almost look like flat on camera flash though they may not be.


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Oct 31, 2011 12:05 |  #9

2a - The lighting here looks much better. Maybe a smidge hot on the camera right side but much more flattering. Id move her about 10-15 feet from that wall and then use a longer focal length to throw it out of focus. Also, I would have swapped outfits from this picture to the last one. She has a shirt with a black and white edgy design on in the last one and shes on what appears to be a board walk in that one. To me, the dress says boardwalk and the grundgy shirt says graffiti wall.

2b - Looks like flat on camera flash again. I like the pose though! Her hands look a bit uncomfortable here. Here are two very in depth articles about hands.
http://www.prophotores​ource.com …-how-to-handle-hands.html (external link)
http://www.prophotores​ource.com …handle-hands-part-ii.html (external link)
This image looks too "flashy" to me because the background is dark and she is well lit. To me, it would be a stronger image if you either slowed the shutter speed to allow more ambient, allowing the sky to blow out more or lowered the aperture and flash to match or upped the ISO and turned down the flash to match. This could go for a longer focal length and more background blur too.


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Oct 31, 2011 12:11 |  #10

The last is kinda meh. She doesnt look too happy and the directional lighting is making unflattering shadows on her face. See how this outfit and hairstyle are edgy than the other? I feel like this too needs that distracting and unattractive background blurred out. She is sitting up straight here though, which is good. The graffiti wall one she is a bit slouched.

I hope these are helpful. Im no pro but these are the critiques I wish people would give me.


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Oct 31, 2011 21:15 |  #11

Good constructive tips, Shane...thanks. FYI...she asked for the pool shots for her senior pics but I had never done those before (which I informed her that it would be an experiment on my part). These were my first....(not my last, though...have another similar request in 2 wks; will definitely incorporate your advice). WRT the graffiti, again, having it identifiable in the pic was at her request. Agree with the outfit tip and the "slouch," though. Thanks for the more definitive critiques!




  
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Oct 31, 2011 21:54 |  #12

Not a problem! Dont forget that you dont have to completely obliterate the backgrounds. Its helpful to have them slightly blurred, but still identifiable so that you get some separation between the subject and the background. Here is a shot that has separation but is still able to be easily identified.

http://500px.com/photo​/2733936 (external link) To me, it almost looks 3D that he is separated so much from the background.


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Oct 31, 2011 22:05 |  #13

Yep, great example....and, again, good advice. Thanks.




  
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