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Nov 07, 2011 19:58 |  #1

I am shooting a wedding Saturday and want to move my flash away from the camera and use a second flash also that are mounted on stands. I've seen people mount a radio controller master unit on top of the camera and mount the 580 EX2's to receivers and control them via radio antennae units.

Can someone tell me the most value conscious RADIO units to use? And are they relatively easy to use? And reliable?




  
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Nov 07, 2011 20:02 |  #2

These are cheap and work great http://www.hkyongnuo.c​om/e-detail.php?ID=282 (external link)


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Nov 07, 2011 20:21 |  #3

7D_Sniper wrote in post #13368129 (external link)
These are cheap and work great http://www.hkyongnuo.c​om/e-detail.php?ID=282 (external link)

Hmmmmm, looks interesting. Are there any you know that are more readily available like at B&H or the like?

BTW, having never used this style of shooting equipment what is the official gadget name of these devices? Are they easy to use? Are they pretty customizable?




  
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Nov 07, 2011 21:08 |  #4

There is an ETTL radio controller for 580EXes, I think from Paul C Buff... But it's quite expensive.

There are non-ETTL radio flash triggers available from a lot of places, like the one at the link above. They are much cheaper, but your flashes will all need to be set up manually. Some can be used to fire studio stobes, too. PocketWizards are one of the top brands. There are many copies and some are inexpensive.

580EX and all the other Canon flashes communicate by IR, not radio. So you generally to have ETTL control over them from the camera you need an ST-E2 or one of the third party equivalents, such as this: http://www.hkyongnuo.c​om/e-detail.php?ID=277 (external link)

These allow you to set the flash ratio remotely and give you full TTL metering of the flash.

However, IR is line of sight only, so that somewhat limits where you can place the flash units.

Radio allows a lot more flexibility, where you can place the flashes. Usually they have greater reach than IR, too. But most do not meter TTL and most you cannot make changes and adjustments to the flash output remotely.

I guarantee you a wedding is not the place to be learning to use wireless, multiple flashes!


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Nov 07, 2011 21:39 |  #5

SOLUTION . . went with the PocketWizard. Has some issues if the lights are further than 30' but short of that all is well. So, that's my ticket.

I have quite a bit of experience and the only place i really want to use the flash control like this is the portraits where i want to put the lights on the sides of the camera and then shoot control. Maybe a few times with the dances but short of that im a camera mount flash and do just fine with that so I think I'll be good to go.

Thanks for the input.




  
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Nov 08, 2011 07:36 |  #6

Good choice but I would hardly call PocketWizards "value conscious" haha but you will enjoy them


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Nov 08, 2011 07:45 |  #7

Pdubs are probably the most expensive route that you could have possibly gone with.


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Nov 08, 2011 11:49 |  #8

7D_Sniper wrote in post #13369956 (external link)
Good choice but I would hardly call PocketWizards "value conscious" haha but you will enjoy them

Yeah I ordered 3 of them today and will be here tomorrow and will experiment with them some before the shoot. I'm pretty safe without them but I just have not been pleased with my camera mounted configuration. So i will mount the transmitter on the camera, one light right, one light left, and go with that configuration for now. I will eventually get a 3rd 580 EX ii and another PocketWizard and have a nice portable 3 light set.




  
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Nov 08, 2011 13:39 |  #9

You will be very happy with the PW, they are solid. Not the cheapest...but you get what you pay for.


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Nov 08, 2011 18:23 |  #10

jcox10 wrote in post #13371470 (external link)
You will be very happy with the PW, they are solid. Not the cheapest...but you get what you pay for.

Thanks. Was looking at your inventory of gear and wonder if the PW will trigger both a 580 EX ii and a 430 at the same time?




  
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Nov 09, 2011 10:11 |  #11

The PW plus II will trigger almost any flash...a friend of mine is using a mix of Canon, Nikon, and Sigma flashes. The flex TT-5 would need at least a flash that is compatible with Canon ETTL if you want to use it in TTL mode.

But the 580 and 430 would be no problem.


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Nov 09, 2011 14:15 |  #12

jcox10 wrote in post #13375613 (external link)
The PW plus II will trigger almost any flash... . . But the 580 and 430 would be no problem.

Yeah I will only be using the 580 EXii's or a 430 if nearly as good as the 580 other than power?




  
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