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Nov 09, 2011 13:07 as a reply to  @ post 13376380 |  #241

ordered 565 too:)


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Nov 09, 2011 13:47 as a reply to  @ Giorgos's post |  #242

Does this flash contain the ability to be a master unit?

I have a 420EX and id like to pick up a YN.....

the only requirement i have is that it be a master so i can make use of the 420 obv.


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Nov 09, 2011 14:30 |  #243
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heinimi wrote in post #13376434 (external link)
I do not need HSS and it is of not much use anyway.

Some of us use pocket wizard TT5's...




  
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Nov 09, 2011 15:10 |  #244

rhys216 wrote in post #13376872 (external link)
Some of us use pocket wizard TT5's...

I think it's been pretty well established in the past that if you want/need HSS, then you spend the money on Canon-brand flashes ($450+ for a 580ex ii) and pocketwizards (Another $440 for 2 units).

If you're on a budget, or simply don't feel the need for HSS - then one can invest far less money and still get a flash that performs strongly and some triggers that perform very reliably - and even have money leftover to buy a good ND filter so they can shoot outside & wide open under x-sync shutter speeds.

I'm quite sure we're all clear on that... yes? no? maybe?



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Nov 09, 2011 15:22 |  #245

Rolfe D. Wolfe wrote in post #13376643 (external link)
Does this flash contain the ability to be a master unit?

No, you would need a ST-E2 which you could by cheaply here (external link).




  
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Nov 09, 2011 16:03 |  #246

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I received mine today ( I already own two Yongnuo 560's) and the quality of the 565 is brilliant - strong, sturdy, works great - fantastic bit of kit - dare I say it 'EX'-killer? ;)

So how does the 560 compare to the 565? I'm looking for a 2nd flash to go with my 430 EX II, perhaps the 565 is overkill, but if it is built that much better I'd consider it.

Also, a bit OT, but any suggestion about using an off-camera TTL or sync cord for the 430 EX II and the optical slave mode of the 560 or 565 -or- a using a few Yongnuo RF-603 radio triggers? (I have the 50D, so no built in wireless trigger for me; PWs sound nice but way outside my price range.)

* Oh, and I guess there is also the ST-E2 option, either Canon or Yongnuo.


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Nov 09, 2011 16:27 |  #247

The 560 is manual only. The 565 has ETTL II capabilities.

The sync cord with the other flash on optical trigger will work fine. Both of your options are completely viable and usable. The radio triggers will simply be more reliable and you can shoot from farther distances from your flashes and still have them fire.

Just a matter of your budget and shooting style.

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Nov 09, 2011 16:36 |  #248

Thanks for the reply. Does it make sense to pay more for the 565 to keep the possibility of E-TTL open, or in general will I probably be shooting in manual anyhow after I get a bit of flash experience?


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Nov 09, 2011 16:42 |  #249

MikeG2012 wrote in post #13377494 (external link)
The 560 is manual only. The 565 has ETTL II capabilities.

The sync cord with the other flash on optical trigger will work fine. Both of your options are completely viable and usable. The radio triggers will simply be more reliable and you can shoot from farther distances from your flashes and still have them fire.

Just a matter of your budget and shooting style.

Mike

Just to add, the budget radio triggers like Cactus v5 or RF-603's only work as manual regardless if your flash has ETTL capabilities.


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Nov 09, 2011 17:54 |  #250

jrbdmb wrote in post #13377551 (external link)
Thanks for the reply. Does it make sense to pay more for the 565 to keep the possibility of E-TTL open, or in general will I probably be shooting in manual anyhow after I get a bit of flash experience?

Again, it depends on your shooting style. If you're not shooting weddings or sports with multiple flashes, then generally you'll by shooting in manual.

Manual flash is perfect if your subject to flash distance does not change greatly or quickly. If you have very little control of your subjects' movements and can't keep your flash at a constant distance from your subject, then you're gonna need ETTL.


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Nov 09, 2011 19:07 as a reply to  @ MikeG2012's post |  #251

Just received mine. In 6 weekdays from HK to Qc, not bad :)
First impression is very good. Great build quality, good packaging.
First tests confirms what many reviewer already said, on-camera or triggered by RF-602.

As for the cons, I think a con is something "annoying" every customer, not just some.
Example: HSS. I never needed - and probably never will need - to use High Speed Flash. So is that a con ? Not for me.

The only caveat, not really a con, would be the PC port. They could have inculded a 3.5mm port instead as I use the RF-602 triggers. But then again, it doesn't stop me using that flash. Just have to sit it on the Rx.

My 2 cents

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Nov 09, 2011 22:58 |  #252

Alright, has anyone successfully used this with the canon ST-E2? I've been very busy and haven't had a chance to look into this too much but I haven't been able to work this yet, I'm still happy with everything else about the flash though.

My YN-565 is working perfect on camera and when controlled by my canon 550ex as a master but the ST-E2 doesn't seem to trigger it properly. I can switch the channel right and everything and get it communicating but it doesn't show at all in the pictures. As in, I can trigger it using the camera to test pop the flash through the st-e2, and when I click the shutter, the flash fires. But nothing shows in the shot. It seems like the timing must be off or it's only firing the pre-flash or something.

The way I see it it's either non compatible or I'm doing something dumb so I thought I'd ask. I could get the yongnuo st-e2 instead but I hate to sell something nicer that I already have just to buy the off-brand version. If I need to for compatibility that seems like the way to go though, cause I can't afford another canon flash right now


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Nov 10, 2011 02:07 |  #253

@elogical: Are you using the wireless TTL flash mode? I guess you are using the optical slave mode S1. You have to press the zoom button longer, not the mode button to enter this mode.




  
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Nov 10, 2011 04:34 |  #254

The lack of 100% ETTL killed it for me. RadioPoppers can't control the power output like OEM.


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heinimi
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Nov 10, 2011 06:32 |  #255

How do you know? I saw a video showed Radio Poppers and 565EX working together perfectly. Also it is 100% ETTL compatible.




  
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