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Nov 10, 2011 18:34 |  #1696

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one of the thread posters was going on about the deficiencies of the AF and metering of Canon's cameras...was curious what he was talking about (we all know the limitations of the 5D's AF system, but metering is a new one for me).

That was me :D. For the past few years I've regarded Canon as the innovators, making mistakes along the way as all innovators do, but ultimately advancing the science of photography. Nikon I've seen as "perfecters", taking an innovation that hasn't so far been given the research to fulfil its promise and doing just that. The fact that Nikon stayed so long with the c.12mp sensor created by Canon is an example. But it struck me that with the 5D2 Canon didn't do that - they took the sensor from the 1Ds3 and the AF & metering from the 5D, but didn't really advance any. That was what disappointed me with that camera and made me decide not to buy it. I did buy the 7D, which had some real innovations. I'm hoping that with the 5D3 Canon will resume their prior progress on the FF side.

As to the metering, I quite often shoot with friends using D90s. Both my cameras cost a great deal more than the D90, yet I often find that my photos, taken with either camera, are not as well exposed as their first D90 attempt. I don't know what the technical differences are, but it does seem that the Nikon simply works better.

It's like comparing my Macbook Pro with my admittedly elderly Windows machine - the Mac just works, and the Windows one often doesn't.


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Nov 10, 2011 19:00 |  #1697

Are both the Canon and Nikon cameras shooting in the same metering mode when you compare, do side-by-side? :D


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Nov 10, 2011 19:04 |  #1698

Haven't checked. I do know I've been trying to do the best my camera can do. I'm not saying every Nikon photo is better than every Canon one, but that the failure rate I've experienced is considerably higher than with the D90s. Really the D90 is an amazing cameras for not much money.


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Nov 11, 2011 15:35 |  #1699

I think Nikons have some of the ugliest and crappiest ergonomics.


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Nov 11, 2011 15:37 |  #1700

AzzKicker wrote in post #13387246 (external link)
I think Nikons have some of the ugliest and crappiest ergonomics.

Fortunately, you don't have to marry your camera...


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Nov 11, 2011 15:51 |  #1701

AzzKicker wrote in post #13387246 (external link)
I think Nikons have some of the ugliest and crappiest ergonomics.

Like the new 1 series. I mean, who the heck wants a PINK camera and lens, fer God's sake! Whew!




  
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Nov 11, 2011 15:51 |  #1702

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Fortunately, you don't have to marry your camera...

My wife says I touch my camera more than I do her - does that count for anything?




  
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Nov 11, 2011 15:54 |  #1703

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My wife says I touch my camera more than I do her - does that count for anything?

Only if the camera moans a little louder:p


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Nov 11, 2011 15:55 |  #1704

Todd Lambert wrote in post #13387324 (external link)
My wife says I touch my camera more than I do her - does that count for anything?

The obvious answer to this question = Instant Ban Hammer

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Nov 11, 2011 15:59 |  #1705

Todd Lambert wrote in post #13387324 (external link)
My wife says I touch my camera more than I do her - does that count for anything?

Yes Todd, it means that you are a very lucky man! That she notices, I mean!

Actually Todd, I was about to comment on some Canon v Nikon stuff when your post caught my eye.

It seems to me that there is a lot of time spent comparing and complaining about Canon not doing this or Nikon not doing that, or V-V...yet right through this forum is the living proof that great pictures are made with "imperfect" tools. One man's bad is another's good...ad nauseum.

(Notwithstanding that, when I can get my hands on a 1D X...well then ALL my pictures will be great!););)


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Nov 11, 2011 16:10 |  #1706

LOL!

Yeah, my wife is pretty understanding... but to a point. She's fighting me on the 1DX, but in the end, I know she will allow it. (It's sort of a posturing type thing) 8-)

Ricardo222 wrote in post #13387358 (external link)
There is a lot of time spent comparing and complaining about Canon not doing this or Nikon not doing that, or V-V...yet right through this forum is the living proof that great pictures are made with "imperfect" tools. One man's bad is another's good...ad nauseum.

(Notwithstanding that, when I can get my hands on a 1D X...well then ALL my pictures will be great!););)

I think the key is your use of the word: "Tool". That's really it in a nutshell... these are all just tools to allow us to create things. Some tools may be better suited for one thing than another tool, but unless you get into a very select niche, these tools (especially at this level) are more than capable to allow us to create most anything we want. It just requires work - which the day that it doesn't do that anymore, is probably the day that I will stop photographing.




  
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Nov 12, 2011 11:07 |  #1707

Todd Lambert wrote in post #13387409 (external link)
LOL!

Yeah, my wife is pretty understanding... but to a point. She's fighting me on the 1DX, but in the end, I know she will allow it. (It's sort of a posturing type thing) 8-)

Just MAKE SURE she doesn't see this post!!

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Nov 12, 2011 13:25 |  #1708

can't you guys trade in the wife for a newer model ?


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Nov 12, 2011 13:33 |  #1709

picard wrote in post #13390516 (external link)
can't you guys trade in the wife for a newer model ?

Only in dreams...:lol:


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Nov 12, 2011 13:45 |  #1710

picard wrote in post #13390516 (external link)
can't you guys trade in the wife for a newer model ?

Compared to that a 1Dx is ridiculously inexpensive!


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