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Canon Full-Frame: Which 50mm to get?

 
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Nov 12, 2011 19:17 |  #31

Sp1207 wrote in post #13391366 (external link)
How much would Canon make by updating the 50CM with modern trimmings and doubling the price? I would pay ~700 for a USM, IS, weathersealed, circular apertured 50/2.5 macro.

I rather they upgrade the 50mm f/1.4 to carry the nice USM ring type AF, weathersealed or not, don't really care. If you want weathersealed, get the L. IS for a 50mm fast prime, don't really need it. And I much prefer longer focal length macro, 50mm macro is not really my taste.


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Nov 12, 2011 20:29 |  #32

thestone11 wrote in post #13391635 (external link)
I rather they upgrade the 50mm f/1.4 to carry the nice USM ring type AF,

^This. All of Canon's non L EF primes are a little long in the tooth.


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Nov 12, 2011 20:44 |  #33

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Sigmalux. Love mine.

Used to own nifty fifty -> Canon 50 1.4 and finally settled on sigma 50. It's 99% of 50L without focus shift. I have no lust to go 50L whatsoever.

I second the Sigma. The Canon 50 1.4s are plagued with QC issues. I had my hands on maybe 6 in total, 3 of which suffered from some kind of issue, whether it was the grinding focus ring or being back focused. The 50L was problematic--never gave consistent results with closeups. Would not recommend the 50L... the 85L is another story though.


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Nov 12, 2011 20:57 as a reply to  @ MOkoFOko's post |  #34

the 50 I have for sale has NO focus shift.


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Nov 13, 2011 04:24 |  #35

i used canon 50 1.8 II, canon 50 1.4 (twice), sigma 50 1.4. i sold them all.
my first copy of canon 50 1.4 was nice, quite sharp wide open. sold it.
bought another copy, but this 2nd copy was very, very soft wide open, and af motor felt very fragile. sold it.
my sigma copy had faulty af. i also didn't like the color. too much red-orange cast for my taste. sold it.

now i use zeiss 50mm makro planar. it easily became my favorite.

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Nov 13, 2011 10:09 as a reply to  @ reza187's post |  #36

I,ve owned the canon 50 1.4' sigma 50 and now the zeiss 50f2. The zeiss is by far the best of the three. Sharpest,best color and 1:2 macro as a bonus.


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Nov 13, 2011 10:21 |  #37

thestone11 wrote in post #13391635 (external link)
I rather they upgrade the 50mm f/1.4 to carry the nice USM ring type AF, weathersealed or not, I don't really care. If you want weathersealed, get the L. IS for a 50mm fast prime, I don't really need it. And I much prefer longer focal length macro, 50mm macro is not really my taste.

Issue with that is that there's no market for them to move into. If they add just USM and move the price up in line with their last few upgrades they'll be on tier with the Sigma 50, which also has nicer build/warranty Canon can't reasonably match without pricing themselves over it. There's a very strong demand for a USM/IS/macro/potential​ly weathersealed 50, as seen by the success of Sony's CF fast primes+IBIS.

Stan43 wrote in post #13393345 (external link)
I,ve owned the canon 50 1.4' sigma 50 and now the zeiss 50f2. The zeiss is by far the best of the three. Sharpest,best color and 1:2 macro as a bonus.

That's not 100% fair. The Zeiss is priced ~2/3x as high and is an F2 macro rather than a fast 1.4. I would definitely expect a slower macro lens to be optically perfect, as we see with the CM50.


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Nov 13, 2011 17:39 |  #38

I will never buy another sigma lens. I hated my Sigma 50mm. It was the most unreliable lens I ever tried and Sigma was a nightmare to work with as far as warranty repair work.

I have owned the 50 f/1.4 a couple times and I never had trouble with either copy. It's a good lens (especially when I've been reviewing some of my images recently. It's better than I ever gave it credit for)

I have also had three copies of the 50L. My third one is definitely the best performing one and even though I use it A LOT I'm debating letting it go and going back to the 50 f/1.4. The reason? I could really use $1k in my bank account right now more than I "NEED" f/1.2.


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Nov 13, 2011 18:08 as a reply to  @ agphotography's post |  #39

I also think the Zeiss 50mm Makro-Planar is spectacular. It was great on a crop sensor (T2i) but is amazing on my 5D II. I owned the 50mm f/1.8 and Sigma 50mm but neither impressed me.
While the Zeiss is not as fast as the 50L (which I haven't tried), compared to my 85L II or 100L it has superior color rendition and contrast.


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Nov 13, 2011 18:10 |  #40

do u do video? if so 50L
if photo only, than the sigma will be fine


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Nov 13, 2011 18:21 |  #41

if i were you i'd forget about the 50mm and get the 35L instead, 21MP leave you quite a bit of headroom to crop. :)

danwanfur wrote in post #13395018 (external link)
I also think the Zeiss 50mm Makro-Planar is spectacular. It was great on a crop sensor (T2i) but is amazing on my 5D II. I owned the 50mm f/1.8 and Sigma 50mm but neither impressed me.
While the Zeiss is not as fast as the 50L (which I haven't tried), compared to my 85L II or 100L it has superior color rendition and contrast.

care to show side by side comparison shots of your Zeiss 50mm has superior color and contrast than 85L II? :)


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Nov 13, 2011 18:42 |  #42

kenwood33 wrote in post #13395026 (external link)
do u do video? if so 50L
if photo only, than the sigma will be fine

Interesting, why? I'd recommend the Zeiss especially for video, given it's superior (to the 50L and 85L) contrast/color/pop and better MF. The Sigma makes even more sense for video since it has less focus breathing than the 50L, plus AF isn't a concern.


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Nov 13, 2011 18:44 |  #43

The Sigma 50 is one hell of a lens.




  
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Nov 13, 2011 22:57 |  #44

Wow, this is sort of the question I have lol

Seems like the Sigma 50 is same as the 30 in terms of reliability. I loved my 30 on my 40D, but now I have a 5D and they're both gone.

For me it's about IQ, Bokeh, and focus in low-light. I have a 50 1.8 MKi, which is pretty good on FF, but I still haven't shot enough to see if it does everything I want... Considering the upgrade to the Sigma but it's really sketchy...




  
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Nov 13, 2011 23:02 |  #45
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tsong wrote in post #13396075 (external link)
Wow, this is sort of the question I have lol

Seems like the Sigma 50 is same as the 30 in terms of reliability. I loved my 30 on my 40D, but now I have a 5D and they're both gone.

For me it's about IQ, Bokeh, and focus in low-light. I have a 50 1.8 MKi, which is pretty good on FF, but I still haven't shot enough to see if it does everything I want... Considering the upgrade to the Sigma but it's really sketchy...

um you shouldn't be...i used to own both sigma 30 and 50, both perfect out of the box. Sold the 30 when i go ff and now the sigma 50 is better than ever:lol:

Added the sigma 85 recently and it's perfect again. Love the sigma primes' performance and price.

I have no lust to go 50L at all.


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