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60D vs D7000 Which to buy?

 
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Nov 14, 2011 00:13 |  #1

I was pretty set on the 60D until I started reading some comparisons. Mainly that the D7000 has better low light performance and way more AF points.

Here was the comparison given of the 2 as to why the D7000 was better

Much more dynamic range 13.9 EV vs 11.5 EV
Significantly better color depth 23.5 bits vs 22.2 bits
Continuous video focus Yes vs No
Many more focus points 39 vs 9
Video autofocus Contrast detection vs None
Significantly better viewfinder coverage 100% vs 96%
Larger viewfinder 0.62x vs 0.59x
Has more storage slots 2 vs 1
Slightly larger sensor APS-C 23.6x15.6mm vs APS-C 22.3x14.9mm
Shoots slightly faster 6 fps vs 5.3 fps
Slightly less shutter lag 238 ms vs 253 ms
Slightly more lenses available 169 lenses vs 162 lenses
Better boost ISO 25,600 ISO vs 12,800 ISO

I don't really have any canon lenses right now because I sent the 15-85 I ordered back so I will be starting with nothing. And I know this is a Canon forum but I am hoping I can get some honest opinions. I have played with both the cameras and I find the 60D's settings and menus to make way more sense and I love the way it feels but if the D7000 is a much better camera I am sure I would get used to it just fine.


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Nov 14, 2011 01:00 |  #2

The D7000 kills the 60D in dynamic range, this and the 100% viewfinder are the biggest differences, other than that its pretty much down to what one fits better in your hand... I went with the D7000 and never looked back.




  
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Nov 14, 2011 01:15 |  #3

maverick14 wrote in post #13396402 (external link)
The D7000 kills the 60D in dynamic range, this and the 100% viewfinder are the biggest differences, other than that its pretty much down to what one fits better in your hand... I went with the D7000 and never looked back.

How significantly would the Dynamic range affect your every day shots? Is it a massive noticeable difference?


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Nov 14, 2011 01:47 |  #4

The 60D and D7000 are both fine cameras. On paper the D7000 trumps the Canon, but from most of the reviews I've read or watched there are some pluses and minuses for both cameras.

For example, the fps may be higher for the Nikon, but it's buffer is smaller than the Canon's, so the 60D can shoot at it's rated fps for more shots.

Unless you have a specific body need that one side can't fulfill, buy into the system you'll be willing to stick with for the long haul. Nikon and Canon constantly release new bodies ... and leapfrog each other with regards to technology.


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Nov 14, 2011 03:18 |  #5

d7000 is surely the bether camera, still I don't know if I would have bought it. I like the design of canon more than nikon. That has been the main argument for me all the time since I bought my first camera in 1994. I find the design better in Canon.

Canon is the biggest of them, therefore Nikon has to to offer more and bether bodies to gain market shares. But, who knows what Canon will put up in the next 12 month. When canon released 7D, canon was in front. With d7000 Nikon has the edge on that price level. But with Canon X, Canon has the greatest toy of them all for an some fantazillion bucks, at least for the next couple of month. This is a battle that will go on untill one of them goes bankrupt.

So, the question is not so much about the small differences between the bodies, at least not for me. It is, wich system do you want to invest into? Lenses is normaly something you keep for a long time and even keep for a lifetime, a body is something you change. So, I would rather ask myselves these two questions: wich lens do I want, and do I like the estetic of the system. Then I go for a body.


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Nov 14, 2011 05:33 |  #6

killeraxemannic wrote in post #13396280 (external link)
I was pretty set on the 60D until I started reading some comparisons. Mainly that the D7000 has better low light performance and way more AF points.

I don't really have any canon lenses right now because I sent the 15-85 I ordered back so I will be starting with nothing. And I know this is a Canon forum but I am hoping I can get some honest opinions. I have played with both the cameras and I find the 60D's settings and menus to make way more sense and I love the way it feels but if the D7000 is a much better camera I am sure I would get used to it just fine.

here are reviews where testing revealed the 60D had better AF, better image resolution, video quality and better low light performance!

http://www.photoradar.​com …vs-nikon-d7000?page=0%2C1 (external link)
http://www.popphoto.co​m …011/01/lab-test-canon-60d (external link)
http://www.amateurphot​ographer.co.uk …_EOS_60D_review​_12154.php (external link)




  
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Nov 14, 2011 09:00 |  #7

watt100 wrote in post #13396752 (external link)
here are reviews where testing revealed the 60D had better AF, better image resolution, video quality and better low light performance!

http://www.photoradar.​com …vs-nikon-d7000?page=0%2C1 (external link)
http://www.popphoto.co​m …011/01/lab-test-canon-60d (external link)
http://www.amateurphot​ographer.co.uk …_EOS_60D_review​_12154.php (external link)

Oh wow that's good to see! I definitely wanted to stick with Canon! That helps the choice be a little more clear for me!


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Nov 14, 2011 09:03 |  #8

killeraxemannic wrote in post #13396280 (external link)
...Continuous video focus Yes vs No
...Video autofocus Contrast detection vs None
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If you're considering this as a benefit for video, the D7000 AF during video is pretty much worthless - slow, hunts, and noisy.


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Nov 14, 2011 09:21 |  #9

RTPVid wrote in post #13397321 (external link)
If you're considering this as a benefit for video, the D7000 AF during video is pretty much worthless - slow, hunts, and noisy.

The comparison was from someone from another forum not from me. Good information though! I am not sure how much I will be using the camera for video any ways. I will not be getting it for that as a primary purpose any ways. As long as it can record HD video when I want it to that will be satisfactory for me!


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Nov 14, 2011 10:14 |  #10

The D7000 obliterates the Canon 60D, HOWEVER, if you want to do video, you NEED to get the 60D. Nikon just doesn't do video as properly as it should be done.

As for just plain old photography though, D7000 is where it's at. When my 50D was stolen back in February, I had to start all over and the D7000 was a much better camera at the price range I was looking at. Why?:

better dynamic range
dual memory slots
magnesium body
lens micro adjustments
better high ISO performance
better AF system
better and more advanced metering system
better ergonomics and feel (subjective, but buttons and settings are much easier to get to)

However, picture IQ is basically the same between the both of them, until you get to high ISO, in which the Nikon is a better performer


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Nov 14, 2011 10:30 |  #11

I think we shouldn't forget the significant price difference here. The D7000 has a little bit better spec sheet, but it is also $250-350 more depending on what's on sale this week. Right now, the best prices I can find on the D7000 and 60D put the D7000 at a 25% price premium. That's pretty significant.

I'd also ask what do you need. I know the D7000 has dual slots, but I just don't really see myself using them as I don't shoot professionally. Magnesium alloy body (the D7000 is only partially magnesium anyway) doesn't mean it is actually stronger, just that it feels stronger. You aren't going to want to drop either camera as the glass lens and LCD are still breakable.


And from Razeus list, I think many of them are debatable, especially for real world results.


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Nov 14, 2011 11:10 |  #12

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...And from Razeus list, I think many of them are debatable, especially for real world results.

Apparently, many of the reviewers agree with you. It would seem that the D7000 has better specs on paper, but lacks in overall execution.

And, the mag-alloy "body" on the D7000 is clearly just for marketing purposes, since it is just a partial - top and rear only. The front and bottom are NOT mag-alloy.

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Nov 14, 2011 11:35 |  #13

tkbslc wrote in post #13397686 (external link)
I think we shouldn't forget the significant price difference here. The D7000 has a little bit better spec sheet, but it is also $250-350 more depending on what's on sale this week. Right now, the best prices I can find on the D7000 and 60D put the D7000 at a 25% price premium. That's pretty significant.

I'd also ask what do you need. I know the D7000 has dual slots, but I just don't really see myself using them as I don't shoot professionally. Magnesium alloy body (the D7000 is only partially magnesium anyway) doesn't mean it is actually stronger, just that it feels stronger. You aren't going to want to drop either camera as the glass lens and LCD are still breakable.


And from Razeus list, I think many of them are debatable, especially for real world results.

When I did a quick search for the D7000 I thought it was the same price as the 60D but with further investigation I was definitely wrong. It looks like I would be paying $1400 for the D7000 and only $1150 for the 60D. That alone will greatly affect my decision because I had $660 invested in the lens I just sent back and I will get $400 for my t1i body.


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Nov 14, 2011 11:39 |  #14

killeraxemannic wrote in post #13397956 (external link)
It looks like I would be paying $1400 for the D7000 and only $1150 for the 60D. .

Hopefully those prices included lenses, but with the 15-85 you probably don't need the kit lens on the 60D. The 15-85 is better than the 18-135 that the 60D ships with in the kit.

Amazon/Adorama has the 60D, camera body with no lens, for $870.

You'd probably want to get the Nikon 16-85 VR if you switched to Nikon, and you'd lose 10% or so selling your 15-85 and 50mm f1.8, so there is some more money down the drain to switch.


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Nov 14, 2011 11:44 |  #15

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Hopefully those prices included lenses, but with the 15-85 you probably don't need the kit lens on the 60D. The 15-85 is better than the 18-135 that the 60D ships with in the kit.

Amazon/Adorama has the 60D, camera body with no lens, for $870.

You'd probably want to get the Nikon 16-85 VR if you switched to Nikon, and you'd lose 10% or so selling your 15-85 and 50mm f1.8, so there is some more money down the drain to switch.

I sent back the 15-85 that I had because it was defective. I just got a refund for it and decided to get a new camera with a kit lens instead because I have never been happy with my T1i body.


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