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Nov 14, 2011 20:22 |  #1

Hi- I have been researching this which seems like FOREVER! I'll just ask here and maybe someone will take pity on me and solve my problem. I am planning to go pro as soon as I know my camera and equipment inside out- I own the Canon 5D Mark II and the lenses I have are the 24-105 and the 50 1.8. I want to do portraits, weddings and I would also like a lens that is FAST and wont blur when I try to take pics of kids outdoors. I am also going to have a studio at home so I am going to learn all about flash and lighting but one thing at a time. ;) Ok, question is 70-200 2.8 IS or 85 1.2??? Should I get the 70-200 and the 85 1.8 (cheaper)? H-E-L-P I can only afford to get one expensive lens and I don't want to make a mistake and choose the wrong one. Thanks for your help!!!


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Nov 14, 2011 20:57 |  #2

You'll get WAY more mileage from the 70-200 f/2.8L IS lens. Next up, sell the 24-105 AND the 50 f/1.8 and put that money toward a 35L, which is magical on the 5D2. The 70-200 becomes your all around lens for the kids and outdoors, the 35L will do great indoors, portraits, family shots, etc.

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Nov 14, 2011 21:02 |  #3

Although I am no professional, the 70-200 2.8 II seems to be the new standard issue for both wedding photographers and portrait photographers. You can always add the 85 1.8 (I have seen a review where the 1.8 actually focuses faster than the 1.2). For now, my vote would be the 70-200.


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Nov 14, 2011 21:05 |  #4

Thanks, Dave. It never occurred to me to sell my 24-105! Hmmm...


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Nov 14, 2011 21:07 as a reply to  @ snyderman's post |  #5

Thanks, CaptB- I had heard that about the 70-200 but now I am hearing a whole lot about the 85. If the 1.8 focuses faster, that's great!


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Nov 14, 2011 21:08 |  #6

I would not consider the 85 1.2 until you have had a lot more time with your camera. I love the 70-200 2.8 IS. It is very versatile. I'm not sure I would sell the 24-105 just yet as it is an awesome walk around lens for the 5D


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Nov 14, 2011 21:23 |  #7

Chris wrote in post #13400555 (external link)
I would not consider the 85 1.2 until you have had a lot more time with your camera.

Can you elaborate on this a little please?


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Nov 14, 2011 21:43 |  #8

CaptB412 wrote in post #13400515 (external link)
Although I am no professional, the 70-200 2.8 II seems to be the new standard issue for both wedding photographers and portrait photographers. You can always add the 85 1.8 (I have seen a review where the 1.8 actually focuses faster than the 1.2). For now, my vote would be the 70-200.

Think again, most wedding photographer, at least the ones that I know including myself don't like carrying big lens during a wedding photo shoot!

I usually have a fast prime on my 5d mk II, then another zoom on my second body. The only time that I pull out a tele will be in a church during the ceremony when u can't go upclose to the couple. Changing lens is another big no to me during a shooting session. My 50mm prime basically covers 80% of all my shots.


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Nov 15, 2011 02:51 |  #9

atlantamom wrote in post #13400533 (external link)
Thanks, Dave. It never occurred to me to sell my 24-105! Hmmm...

I wouldn't sell it if I were you. The 24-105L is a great studio lens.


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Nov 15, 2011 03:19 |  #10

atlantamom wrote in post #13400633 (external link)
Can you elaborate on this a little please?

I can't speak for Chris but I agree with him. The 1.2 lens is capable of stunning results in the right hands, but even the pros admit to less keepers on average than with other lenses....due to the very small DOF. If you're not using it near wide open then you might as well have the 85 1.8...also a very sharp lens and quick to focus.

The general concensus seems to be the 70-200 2.8 and I would find it hard to disagree.

Remember, you don't have to cover every millimeter of FL ...primes will serve you well, specially at for wider angles.


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Nov 15, 2011 05:33 |  #11

you have lots of options including renting each lens for a couple days each to get a feel of which would more suit you. renting both at the same time would allow you to evaluate the strengths and weaknesses to your style of shooting and eliminate one or the other.

I don't agree with selling off your 24-105 but if must you must. Its still a very capable lens. Mine lives on my camera most of the time. I must admit that I use it as a walk-around but you can get some great shots from it if you had to. Consider also that you did not mention a wide angle lens this can baby sit the wider focal lengths till you can upgrade.

70-200 vs the 85 1.2, I have to agree on getting the 70-200 first the 85 will not get you the flexibility of the zoom. If I had to give one up I'd give up the 85 before I would even consider the 70-200 but that's because of the type of pictures I'm aiming to get ATM. versatility is versatility and nothing beats it.

If you feel you want to try the 85 first then go for it and get a 85 1.8 but hold off on the expensive lens until you have had some time with the 85 1.8 THEN decide if you want the 70-200 or the 85 1.2 first. you can always sell the 85 1.8 if you decide to get the 85 1.2. if you choose this method you will take a loss after the sale BUT you will hopefully have the comfort in knowing you got the lens that works best for you.

perhaps you can just get the more expensive one first then sell it off to get the other if you so choose.


options, options, options. in the end its about choosing the evaluating method that suits you best.


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Nov 15, 2011 05:37 |  #12

IMO, there are limited uses for a large heavy lens like the 85 1.2. The 85 1.8 I have is my favorite, so sharp and fast. But the 70-200 2.8 IS is about as good as it gets for speed and sharpness for a zoom and you will be using it a lot. I shoot weddings and events and portraits. This is the most zoom I use, more than my 24-70.

Don't sell the 24-105. Don't sell the 50 1.8. You may need them. Save up for the 70-200 and really work with it. I have my dream set up now, except I want the new 70-200. :) Good luck!


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Nov 15, 2011 06:19 |  #13

You guys are awesome! I wont be selling my lenses and the 70-200 it is! Thanks so much for all your feedback- I am confident of my choice again!


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Nov 15, 2011 06:54 |  #14

atlantamom wrote in post #13400545 (external link)
Thanks, CaptB- I had heard that about the 70-200 but now I am hearing a whole lot about the 85. If the 1.8 focuses faster, that's great!


http://www.youtube.com …evCom#p/u/100/N​uHEn4nLhJU (external link)

An interesting comparison of the 1.2 and 1.8


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Nov 15, 2011 07:02 |  #15

thestone11 wrote in post #13400734 (external link)
Think again, most wedding photographer, at least the ones that I know including myself don't like carrying big lens during a wedding photo shoot!

I usually have a fast prime on my 5d mk II, then another zoom on my second body. The only time that I pull out a tele will be in a church during the ceremony when u can't go upclose to the couple. Changing lens is another big no to me during a shooting session. My 50mm prime basically covers 80% of all my shots.

Funnily enough, when I was doing wedding I insisted on a 28-135 or 35-160 (not the exact ranges, just a generalization) and always hated primes.

I agree with you about lens changes and inside the church!

A zoom gives you freedom. You can get stuck for space with a prime, too close for the image you want, and can't go back because of the damn pews..

A zoom allows for capturing the snap fun shots.. lined up on the bride/groom and the flower-girl does a cartwheel? Got it! (Prime = nope, not got the shot, you were in the wrong spot to fill the frame).




  
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