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Nov 14, 2011 07:39 |  #1

Afternoon,

I have owned my 550D for around 6 months now and I am looking to upgrade from my 18-55 kit lens.

I’ve read numerous threads and the information contained within this site is priceless but my knowledge of lenses is not what it used to be, and I need some advice on a specific lens as I only have a budget off nomore than £250 :confused:

The cars I photograph are always static and one key factor to consider is the lack of decent weather in Scotland and therefore light is always an issue.

I was thinking of 28-135 or a 70-200 but I’m lost with all the brands on offer, can someone please give me the benefit of his or her expertise?

Any advice would be welcome ;-)a

Many thanks.


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Nov 14, 2011 07:51 |  #2

Tamron 17-50 f2.8 works well for static cars. It is razor sharp and quite affordable.


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Nov 14, 2011 07:55 as a reply to  @ Agged's post |  #3

Thanks for the quick reply.

I'm assuming this is off better quality than my kit lens?

It does fall under budget - http://www.amazon.co.u​k …TF8&qid=1321278​866&sr=1-1 (external link) :)

I spotted this - http://www.amazon.co.u​k …F8&qid=13212790​99&sr=1-10 (external link)

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Nov 14, 2011 09:23 |  #4

Car pictures from a Canon T2i, also badged as a 550D, and a Canon 18-55mm image stabilizer lens sold with a 550D as a kit.

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Indoors or outdoors, there have been no shortcomings with the combination of the 550D and the 18-55mm IS lens.



  
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Nov 14, 2011 10:14 |  #5

What do you shoot besides cars?
And what don't you like about the kit lens? You said, "The cars I photograph are always static", & for that it's not terrible at all, especially at f/8+. It's just that, in comparison to an "L" (& my old Nikkors), it feels like a toy, won't hold a manual focus well, & isn't as sharp. Considering it's price & wide angle/macro capabilities though, it's an OK lens for general purpose photography & that's what it was designed to be. A case could be made for bad mouthing "L"s, too. Too big, too heavy, too 'visible', cost's too much...

If I were you, I'd think about putting the money into a good tripod instead, & remember, the light is more important than the lens. These were taken hand held & in very late light.
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Nov 14, 2011 10:34 |  #6

I use a Sigma 18-200mm OS for full-body shots and some detail, and was using a 100mm IS L macro for details (sold it). Now I use the 18-200mm Os and a Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8. Quite frankly, I find the 70-200mm f/2.8 is a great lens but for full-body shots you have to stand pretty far back, and for detail you can't get close enough to get certain angles. With the macro I was able to get pretty much on top of the detail I wanted to shoot, and move around to get whatever angle I wanted. With the 70-200mm the minimum focus distance is too long to be able to get close enough to cars and bikes to get the kind of angles you might want.

The 18-200mm is a great lens and has a great minimum focus distance, but you can't shoot it at f/2.8 for that cool depth of field you might want for certain shots.


I hate to flood the thread with examples, you can go to my Flickr and see tons of car and bikes shots with these lenses. However, here are a few examples of what you can get...


18-200mm OS...I like this lens for tons of reasons, it's sharp, it's got a great focal range, and the MFD is short enough that I can get up-close to my subject. Plus, believe it or not, you can use the distortion on the wide end for some creative effects (like giving shots that "the car is coming at you" efects)...


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100mm IS L macro...which to be honest any decent f/2.8 lens with a short MFD or a different macro lens will give you the same thing. Heck, even a lens like the 50mm f/1.8 will give yuo shots like this, but so far I haven't thought enough to use it for cars to see how well it does...


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70-200mm f/2.8...a lot of people use the 70-200mm lenses for tons of different subjects, I like it for cars and bikes but don't like having to be so far back for full-body shots. And if you don't have a lot of room to work with you may find 70mm too long...


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Nov 16, 2011 07:37 |  #7

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Indoors or outdoors, there have been no shortcomings with the combination of the 550D and the 18-55mm IS lens.

I have no issues wit the kit lens as such. It has served me well, and as your pictures have shown, you can achieve excellent results ;)

I need a lens that provides a greater focal range with the main consideration being the lack of light that is available.


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Nov 16, 2011 07:39 |  #8

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And did you see this thread below yours?
Lens for Car shoots?

I did thanks, I just wanted to throw in my budget as some of those lenses mentioned are a "mortgage payment" as my wife would say :lol:


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Nov 16, 2011 07:43 |  #9

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I use a Sigma 18-200mm OS for full-body shots and some detail.

The 18-200mm is a great lens and has a great minimum focus distance, but you can't shoot it at f/2.8 for that cool depth of field you might want for certain shots.

18-200mm OS...I like this lens for tons of reasons, it's sharp, it's got a great focal range, and the MFD is short enough that I can get up-close to my subject. Plus, believe it or not, you can use the distortion on the wide end for some creative effects (like giving shots that "the car is coming at you" efects)...

Excellent, just falls in under budget if I opt for a non OS model - http://www.amazon.co.u​k …TF8&qid=1321450​884&sr=1-1 (external link)

Must be worth the extra outlay though - http://www.amazon.co.u​k …TF8&qid=1321450​884&sr=1-3 (external link)


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Nov 18, 2011 08:38 |  #10

If you are looking for a 70-200, take a look at the Sigma 70-200 HSM II lens. I tried it out in the store on my 50D and felt like a really solid lens. From the shots I took it was quite sharp. It does not have any IS so for a longer lens you should probably use a tripod when getting below the 1/FL rule.

I would also avoid the super-zoom options mentioned due to the fact that such a varied FL lens will degrade IQ. For a smilar price to the Sigma 70-200 you can also pick up a Canon 135L, but Ive also heard really good things about the 85 1.4, only thing would be that these two lenses would be pretty long on a crop camera.

You also said that light is usually an issue, so try looking at lenses that have either IS or are 2.8 or faster (primes). Try also looking at various primes such as the Sigma 30, Canon 1.8 and 1.4.

Sorry for all the random info but my mind is all over the place this morning! Cheers!


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Nov 18, 2011 14:44 |  #11

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Afternoon,

I have owned my 550D for around 6 months now and I am looking to upgrade from my 18-55 kit lens.

I’ve read numerous threads and the information contained within this site is priceless but my knowledge of lenses is not what it used to be, and I need some advice on a specific lens as I only have a budget off nomore than £250 :confused:

The cars I photograph are always static and one key factor to consider is the lack of decent weather in Scotland and therefore light is always an issue.

I was thinking of 28-135 or a 70-200 but I’m lost with all the brands on offer, can someone please give me the benefit of his or her expertise?

Any advice would be welcome ;-)a

Many thanks.

A lens won't help with the poor lighting/weather in Scotland but strobes and slaves will!

I don't know how good or bad the kit lens is that you have but I think the lens should be your last concern. The fact is that even very cheap lenses can be extremely sharp, at least when stopped down, so there is no reason you can't get a 'good' lens (depending on your definiton) for very little money.

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This lens was actually free, long story, but they are worth about $15 dollars. The adapter to use it on a Canon may cost more. The point is that it's razor sharp at F8, as sharp or sharper than the rather excellent 24-70/2.8 L.

IMHO, you should be more concerned with all the other aspects of photographing cars and honing those skill, lighting, composition finding and using locations. That will make much more difference to the end result than any lens that I can think of. Unless you just want to take photos of cars at car show as any wide angle zoom should do for that.

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Nov 29, 2011 23:48 |  #12

If you had to choose one lens for an automotive/walk around lens what would it be?
I really like shallow DOF shots and I would like something faster than f/4


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Nov 30, 2011 17:40 |  #13

I prefer compressed perspective, keeping the car looking normal (unless I'm going for something extreme), so a nice 2.8 telephoto is my fav when I have enough room to use it. I have a Nikon D7000 (flame suit: ON!) so I use my Nikon 80-200mm F/2.8 two ring when at all possible, and my Nikon 17-55mm F/2.8 for the rest, and for detail shots. Really wanna see what an 85mm F/1.4 looks like in comparison, though...




  
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Feb 06, 2012 20:12 |  #14

I been using the Canon 24-70mm F2.8 for about a week now, so far Im very happy with the blur background from F 2.8. I have sigma 50mm F1.4 coming tomorrow, that should be fun :)




  
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