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Nov 20, 2011 21:53 |  #1

I learned much on the last one of these I did.
Thank you to all who contributed.
Now, I've taken what you've taught me and here's the before/after.

I'm ready for more C&C.

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Corrected WB, cleared up acne, worked skin according to http://www.christyschu​ler.com, brightened the eyes a bit (and added a catchlight)
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Nov 20, 2011 22:09 |  #2

Looks pretty good except for the pink eyes and the teeth have a slight yellow tint. Good job


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Nov 20, 2011 22:17 |  #3

The first thing I noticed was the pink eyes.
second thing was the crop. Crop tighter on the right side.

Everything else looks pretty good considering your original (the original is pretty underexposed and flat looking)


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Nov 20, 2011 23:13 as a reply to  @ NewEnglandPhotographer's post |  #4

Other than antibiotics, what is a good way to get rid of the pink eyes?

I tried dodging, but that made them redder.
Any suggestions?

Thanks!


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Nov 20, 2011 23:40 as a reply to  @ cpam.pix's post |  #5

New and improved with whiter eyes, whiter teeth, and fresher breath...

I was able to use the toothbrush tool for the teeth, but then with the eyes I brushed white that I picked up from the teeth and used that as a 50% opacity layer with a 15% exposure.

Any more suggestions?
(Oops, I forgot the crop...)


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Nov 21, 2011 00:47 |  #6

The edits to her eyes are way overdone. You need to understand the physics of light; catchlights are formed by light entering the eyes. The lightened portion of the pupil is caused by light hitting the back of the eye and reflecting out. This only occurs OPPOSITE the catchlight, In this photo there's a tiny catchlight so the reflection added would be physically impossible.


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Nov 21, 2011 00:50 as a reply to  @ cpam.pix's post |  #7

To the OP, I like your edit on this shot. White balance is as much a matter of personal taste as it is right or wrong. I hope you don't mind but I thought I'd post an edit using a different white balance just for comparison.


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Nov 21, 2011 01:07 as a reply to  @ PixelMagic's post |  #8

Here is white eyes


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Nov 21, 2011 02:19 |  #9

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Nov 21, 2011 05:28 as a reply to  @ PixelMagic's post |  #10

Whites of eyes and teeth is accomplished by duplicating the layer>making detailed selections of eyes/teeth and desaturating the eyes/teeth...the purpose of having them on their own layer is so you can adjust opacity to taste.


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Nov 21, 2011 16:15 |  #11

Whitened eyes/teeth. Re-cropped. Added catch-light around her eyes.


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Nov 21, 2011 20:50 as a reply to  @ NewEnglandPhotographer's post |  #12

IMO her face is under exposed. This looks better on my monitor:
reduced face shine with clone stamp
Lightened with a curves layer - slightly s shaped
Shifted the hue about 2-3 deg towards yellow
Reduced shadows at the sides of her nose/mouth with clone stamp


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Nov 21, 2011 21:20 as a reply to  @ Frugal's post |  #13

My small version.


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Nov 21, 2011 21:48 as a reply to  @ navydoc's post |  #14

POTNers,

Thank you all for your help in learning how to improve my post-processing. When I started with PSE9 a few months ago, I was a complete hack. Come to think about it, I was still a complete hack last week. My first attempts included using the block eraser to cut the model out of the background and then throw a gradient behind her.

Through the amazing encouragement and examples from everyone, I've been able to put away the hack banner and now I'm learning to see finer details that really make a difference. The step-by-step corrections are super helps to noobs like me.

This young lady who I was shooting for the school play contacted me this weekend and asked how much I charge for photo shoots. I have many of you to thank for her liking her photos so well.

I'll try a few more treatments and see if I can fix up the eyes.

And, everyone else is welcome to continue playing along, too. The picture remains available on flickr.

Thanks!!! I've learned a bunch.


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Nov 21, 2011 22:28 |  #15

Frugal, that's the best edit so far.


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