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Yellowstone Bison question

 
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Nov 23, 2011 09:53 |  #1

Grabbed a couple of bison shots one cold September morning in Hayden Valley. Any thoughts on the processing techniques? I'm trying to print up a couple and would like the B&W effect, but I'm not sold on that over the color. I also liked the "Antique" effect that was an instant option in iPhoto and used it on the bison and calf pic.

I turned the bison head shot into B&W on Picasa after downloading from Flickr, so I'm not sure of the quality.

Can anybody give me their preferences? (My wife would like to stick with a B&W theme, but I'm not sure I want to process to fit the decor :))

First the antique:

IMAGE: http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6096/6292659356_7d8ca183d9.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …s/rwilhelmsen/6​292659356/  (external link)
Bison and calf (external link) by rwilhelmsen (external link), on Flickr

And the 2 head shots:

IMAGE: http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6117/6389615309_ecfdceda5e.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …s/rwilhelmsen/6​389615309/  (external link)
B&W (external link) by rwilhelmsen (external link), on Flickr

IMAGE: http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6112/6389599775_7b11c32739.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …s/rwilhelmsen/6​389599775/  (external link)
6195704783_795bed0a7f_​o (external link) by rwilhelmsen (external link), on Flickr

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Nov 23, 2011 11:02 |  #2

Personally I like the third (color) the best. The colors are fairly cool and understated in that picture anyway, so it's not like they take away from the picture (assuming color can take away from a picture).




  
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Nov 23, 2011 11:27 |  #3

Thanks, I know what you mean about the color. The backlighting kind of added to that as well I think, plus helped show the breath a bit.

Would like more contrast in the B&W if going that route I think, but hard to accomplish without losing the left side of his face.


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Nov 23, 2011 19:10 as a reply to  @ Nordwil57's post |  #4

I like the third pic best. Bison are hard for me becasue they are so dark in contrast. I have the same issue with black bear.




  
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Nov 23, 2011 22:19 as a reply to  @ Hoosier Writer's post |  #5

I love black and white and prefer it much of the time, but I have to agree, #3 is the best shot here. You can desaturate a little more and see what happens, but it's pretty darn good as is.




  
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Nov 23, 2011 23:05 |  #6

I'm unfamiliar with iPhoto, even though I own it. If you have an exposure control, move it up about +1.

Increase saturation a bit, then see how you like the color.

I think Bison have subtle changes in their coats, so color is nice to have.

Find some shots of the Bison with the light hitting their faces from the side or front, see if you like those even more.


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Nov 24, 2011 10:12 |  #7

Thanks for the tips! I'll play with it a bit more in iPhoto and Aperture perhaps and see what I can come up with.


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Nov 25, 2011 12:04 |  #8

It is all a matter of opinion so you have to take ideas for what they are worth. Personally, I think for a b & w to work it has to have a lot of contrast. Most of Ansel Adams photos pop because they have white whites and black black. Your photo is all tones of gray. I would go with #3, also because of that. There is just enough color to better see the Bison. I might also bump the saturation just a little.




  
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Nov 26, 2011 07:14 |  #9

EarlE wrote in post #13449688 (external link)
It is all a matter of opinion so you have to take ideas for what they are worth. Personally, I think for a b & w to work it has to have a lot of contrast. Most of Ansel Adams photos pop because they have white whites and black black. Your photo is all tones of gray. I would go with #3, also because of that. There is just enough color to better see the Bison. I might also bump the saturation just a little.

I agree about the contrast. If they weren't backlit, or it was more of a grey day I may have been able to achieve that look, although maybe at the expense of the steam and breath.

Having the sun hit one side of the face makes it almost impossible to increase contrast without losing the detail on the other side.

Thanks for all the input! Time to PP a bit more and see what develops.


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Nov 26, 2011 09:06 |  #10

Well, you can kinda fake the contrast, but only so much. Push the highlights and move the black point around in conjunction with exposure in Camera Raw.


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