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85L - why did you sell yours?

 
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Nov 24, 2011 16:40 |  #121

Ferrari_Alex wrote in post #13445635 (external link)
I know it might be a heresy, but did actually anybody tried how Zeiss 100 MP compares to 85L?

ME. I had them both, albeit not at the same time, along with the 135L. I found the FL of the 100 much more useful than either, and in very very low light, I found the AF slowness and hunting so bad (on the Canons obviously) that I needed to manual focus anyway. I think the 100 ZE is sharper, better bokeh, better color and micro contrast -- and f2 is thin enough. I've got a 50 1.2 (in lieu of the 35L and 85L again) for when I want the 1.2.

Summary -- the Zeiss 100 is the best short tele I have ever used in 35 years. Better than my Leica R and M 90's.


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Nov 24, 2011 17:10 |  #122

I sold mine because:

1. I didn't use it that often, preferring the wider focal lengths and only using the 85L for portraits.
2. I wanted a Leica M8 to use my Zeiss & Leica lenses with
3. The sale price of the 85L was close to the buy price of the M8 and my Leitz 90mm f/4 does pretty well for portraits.

The lens itself is simply amazing though and, at times, I do regret selling it... but the M8 has changed the way I shoot completely (for the better) and I would make the same decision 100 times over without even flinching.


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Nov 24, 2011 17:16 |  #123

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I'm VERY tempted to try out the Sigma 85 as a possible replacement for my 85L mkII. I know that a good copy of the Sigma is every bit as good as the Canon.

That said, I just can't seem to bring myself to even contemplate doing this. The 85L is just so awesome.

You should definitively read this then: http://hofferphotograp​hy.com/tag/sigma-85-1-4-review/ (external link)


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Nov 24, 2011 18:46 |  #124

Didn't use the 85mm focal length as much anymore. Sold the 85LII and picked up a 85 1.8.


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Nov 24, 2011 19:00 |  #125

danny819 wrote in post #13447133 (external link)
Didn't use the 85mm focal length as much anymore. Sold the 85LII and picked up a 85 1.8.

I did the same before dumping the 85 FL altogether. After 35+ years of 35/85s, I'm bored with them. Hence my 21, 28, 2- 50's (EF ƒ1.2 and ZE ƒ2), 100 primes. Half my photo buddies think I'm nuts, the other half understand. 50mm is an acquired vision and produces a timeless quality. 35/85 are the "me too" of lenses. I have a 35 ƒ2 ZE that I never ever use/d, and I suppose I have an 85 in a couple of zooms. It's like Helvetica and Garamond. Univers and Bodoni are much more timeless.


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Nov 24, 2011 19:51 |  #126

Ferrari_Alex wrote in post #13445635 (external link)
I know it might be a heresy, but did actually anybody tried how Zeiss 100 MP compares to 85L?

If you wanted a comparison between the two lenses for IQ, I would certainly pick the Zeiss 100 f2. I'm partial to the Zeiss look over Canon. ;)




  
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Nov 24, 2011 20:28 |  #127

Tom K. wrote in post #13446863 (external link)
You should definitively read this then: http://hofferphotograp​hy.com/tag/sigma-85-1-4-review/ (external link)

Yeah, Tony's review was one of the biggest factors making me consider the Sigma.

Still, I'd have to make sure the Sigma was a perfect copy first, because my 85L is stunningly good.


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Nov 24, 2011 22:54 |  #128

Very interesting, thank you for sharing your experience.

mcluckie wrote in post #13446733 (external link)
ME. I had them both, albeit not at the same time, along with the 135L. I found the FL of the 100 much more useful than either, and in very very low light, I found the AF slowness and hunting so bad (on the Canons obviously) that I needed to manual focus anyway. I think the 100 ZE is sharper, better bokeh, better color and micro contrast -- and f2 is thin enough. I've got a 50 1.2 (in lieu of the 35L and 85L again) for when I want the 1.2.

Summary -- the Zeiss 100 is the best short tele I have ever used in 35 years. Better than my Leica R and M 90's.


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Nov 25, 2011 08:37 |  #129

Now own this lens, whooooooooooooooo!


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Dec 01, 2011 19:20 |  #130

I was dreaming to buy 85L, but i found myself that i don't shoot at wide open, very very rarely i do, so my 85 1.8 can do the job for me, also when i went with H4D, i see that 120 Macro lens is very very slow but can give me that equivalent DoF of 85mm a bit, but i can get closer, but Hasselblad has a lens which is HC 100mm f2.2, i heard that this lens is a gem, and it is the best lens for portraits from Hasselblad, i love my 80mm which is kit lens and not that much great against another Hassy lenses [I talk about digital gear], i checked my shots with all lenses and found that i use wide open on any lens about 20-30% of my shots, so i don't think i have to buy 85L 1.2 and 50 1.2L or any lens that can go very wide open than 1.4, if i will have money to buy it fine, if not i will never cry or worry, i have more higher quality gear than 85 1.2L to use.


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Dec 01, 2011 20:25 |  #131

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Now own this lens, whooooooooooooooo!

congrats. on my wishlist as well. :)


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Dec 01, 2011 20:28 |  #132

Useless at F1.2, and AF speed since I normally use that lens in either MF for product or need the speed of the F1.8 for action and extra stop of F22 instead of F16 limit.

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Dec 02, 2011 11:53 |  #133

Useless at 1.2? I just got mine and i think it has a really nice quality at 1.2! Each to his own i guess...

here's 1.2

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Dec 02, 2011 14:06 |  #134

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Useless at F1.2, and AF speed since I normally use that lens in either MF for product or need the speed of the F1.8 for action and extra stop of F22 instead of F16 limit.

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:rolleyes: F1.2 Useless ? ... o !

My 85L is my best indoor/outdoor/days/ni​ghts sport lens ... more versatile and reliable for sport when light is falling down than my 135L and 300L2.8 ;) ... So for a few years 85L @f1.2 is sticked to one of my bodies and 24L or 300L on the other body .
I don't imagine to loose IQ with a 85F1.8 on fullframe (for crops they is no diffrence due to canon crop limitations).
And what about AF speed ? .. 85L is fast an accurate on any AF points on 1D bodies and central AF point on 5DMKII, and of course it can catch and track any subjects at any speed with erratic movements or not ! you can do panning quite easily. so what more would you need with AF ?

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all taken @ F1.2 or F1.4...

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Dec 02, 2011 14:13 |  #135

jdizzle wrote in post #13447309 (external link)
If you wanted a comparison between the two lenses for IQ, I would certainly pick the Zeiss 100 f2. I'm partial to the Zeiss look over Canon. ;)

It is just I have never seen stunning images from Zeiss 100, but I have seen many from 85L:-) I am sure Zeiss can deliver, but probably not a lot of people have it and therefore it is not easy to find great photos produced with this lens...


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