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Canon 20d vs iphone 4s, iphone 4, galaxy s 2 and an olympus

 
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Nov 24, 2011 22:12 |  #1
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also a 5dmk2 and 4s side by side video comparison




  
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Nov 24, 2011 23:49 |  #2

they compared oof areas on the 20D to in focus areas of the iPhone and came to the conclusion that the iPhone has better sharpness on those photos...What?

And their final conclusion is that the iPhone 4S is as good as the 20D in image quality? Well, why am I using a 40D then, it's about the same as the 20D. wtf ars, I expected more


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Nov 25, 2011 00:34 |  #3

Yeah, I saw that comparison on Gizmodo. The only thing that those tests accurately show is the better minimum focusing distance on the newer phones. It's not that the original was really that crapy, it just can't focus as close. What a piece of crap article.




  
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Nov 25, 2011 07:04 |  #4

As much as I like my tech blogs, they write some of the most crap articles when it comes to cameras. While the camera in the iPhone 4s is really good (for a phone) and has replaced my aging P&S for a pocket carry camera a 20D it is not.


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Nov 25, 2011 07:07 |  #5

They need to learn how to use the 20D first. As for making comments about sharpness, well I'd like to know what picture style they are using! I will admit the 20D is not the greatest for JPG snapshots but in the hands of someone that knows what they are doing, and shooting in RAW it will blow away all those little things.


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Nov 25, 2011 08:10 |  #6

For anyone who read the article all the way to the end. I know, I know lots of people skim or read very little and make assumptions, but the reviewer goes on to say the canon can easily achieve better results. But it cant be slipped into your pocket


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Nov 25, 2011 08:12 |  #7

DStanic wrote in post #13448930 (external link)
They need to learn how to use the 20D first. As for making comments about sharpness, well I'd like to know what picture style they are using! I will admit the 20D is not the greatest for JPG snapshots but in the hands of someone that knows what they are doing, and shooting in RAW it will blow away all those little things.

Uh, the 20D is older than Picture Styles, but the one and only tone curve was roughly equivalent to Neutral.


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Nov 25, 2011 09:39 |  #8

Oh great, more ammunition for all the apple fanboi friends around me. Apple can do no wrong. I can just hear it now...

"Did you know my iPhone's image quality is better than your DSLR? It says so on the internet"

The Nokia N8 is still the best camera you can find on a mobile phone. The sensor is huge compared to other phones and it has a REAL flash. The only problem is, none of the online reviewers have any clue to half press to pre-focus it, just like a real camera.


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Nov 25, 2011 09:43 |  #9

I read the article and found it interesting. The fact of the matter is that most of us who shoot a lot will have a good camera with us almost all the time. For those who don't have a bag of gear around, the iPhones are amazing. I like that I can pull my iPhone out and take a picture of the clouds in the sky while I'm in my car. There are times the sunset or sunrise are so perfect, I don't have time to pull out the good gear. Or someone says to me, "You have a camera, take this picture for me!" and I don't have my camera, I just have my iPhone. So, it's just the way it is. Still, would love to have my 5D2 all the time. And yes, the reviewer is not like many of us, pros who know how to use the gear.


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Nov 25, 2011 09:47 |  #10
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Did they put the 20D on auto? No wonder it didn't come out ahead.


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Nov 25, 2011 12:15 |  #11

tzalman wrote in post #13449045 (external link)
Uh, the 20D is older than Picture Styles, but the one and only tone curve was roughly equivalent to Neutral.

Ok I did have a 20D for a short time, it's so similar to the 30D that I forgot it doesn't have "Picture Styles", however you can still adjust the settings.

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Nov 25, 2011 12:53 as a reply to  @ DStanic's post |  #12

I am sorry, but the guy taking the 20D pictures must have been on crack or something. I mean I do agree the Iphone 4 and Iphone 4s cameras are amazing ... I do have both. But trying to compare it to a Canon 20D is just silly. I have the Canon 20D and I have every single Iphone iteration ... the 20D is much better. Yes the difference has become much less with the latest 4s, but there is still a huge gap.


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Nov 25, 2011 17:24 as a reply to  @ spear's post |  #13

Obviously written by a tech geek and not a photographer.


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Nov 27, 2011 01:41 |  #14

SuzyView wrote in post #13449260 (external link)
I read the article and found it interesting. The fact of the matter is that most of us who shoot a lot will have a good camera with us almost all the time. For those who don't have a bag of gear around, the iPhones are amazing. I like that I can pull my iPhone out and take a picture of the clouds in the sky while I'm in my car. There are times the sunset or sunrise are so perfect, I don't have time to pull out the good gear. Or someone says to me, "You have a camera, take this picture for me!" and I don't have my camera, I just have my iPhone. So, it's just the way it is. Still, would love to have my 5D2 all the time. And yes, the reviewer is not like many of us, pros who know how to use the gear.


I absolutely agree! I take about 10x more pictures with my Iphone than I do with my other three DSLR's or even my 2xG series and S100, and probably nobody is as excited as me with regards to the image quality of the Iphone 4 and 4s. But trying to show that the Iphone 4s image quality is equivalent or better than a Canon 20D ... a camera that has dramatically better high ISO capability, and tremendous flexibility due to its RAW output ... well let us just say that they are being silly. I mean if I have both cameras in front of me and I have to take a picture of a subject at that moment, I really can't imagine I would go for the Iphone rather than the 20D.


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Nov 28, 2011 20:34 |  #15

Ha ha! Now I get it!

This explains why I had a guy at the bar last week telling me how his iphone had the "exact same" image sensor as my 20D did (obviously it can't).

I'll be the first one to say that Apple has some amazing products that really wow me and that their camera and video capabilities are really good for what they are, but I'd love to see an iphone user change lenses, for starters... haha




  
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