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THiZZ3L
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Nov 25, 2011 23:44 |  #1

I like shooting people... That sounds horrible, let me rephrase that: I like to take pictures of people and I want to improve my lighting. Instead of using the pop up flash, I want to get into maybe a mount on top of my camera, or even flashes on the side. Im not sure where to start with getting a flash(es), any suggestions? Im shooting a 20D and I am a college student, so that should narrow the price down.


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Nov 26, 2011 04:16 |  #2

yn 560 + RF603 (60 + 30 USD) from Amazon for starters. Check out the threads for more information.


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Nov 26, 2011 09:41 |  #3

^Seconded. Yongnuo is the way to go when you're getting into flash and on a budget. Go ahead and grab some cheap wireless recievers (YN has some and Cowboy Studios in the US also sells their own brand for cheap within the US) because, if you're looking to improve your lighting, I think you'll be back posting the same question in a week or two if you just stick a larger flash on top of your camera. On-camera flash with a good flash will give you a few more options and a bit more control that your built-in camera, but honestly, you can do so much more by grabbing a cheap light stand and umbrella while you're at it (Cowboy Studios also sells some really inexpensive ones but be warned, they are very lightweight stands and I personally wouldn't use them outdoors... I also found that I needed to modify the umbrella bracket to get the pole angled properly... but if you're in Uni on a budget, it's still a great way to go and you can make it work for you).




  
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Nov 26, 2011 11:04 as a reply to  @ Brandon72's post |  #4

I would look at 420 and 430 EX and EXII's on ebay before buying 3rd party flashes.


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Nov 26, 2011 16:08 as a reply to  @ AzMandella's post |  #5

^^3rd'd LOL
Yongnuo is a great low cost solution for off camera/manual flashes. A new YN560ii is coming out in the December time frame with a few extra touches and should be around the same price as the current YN560. Yn460ii's are good manual flashes as well and I found them to be excellent to learn on and get my feet wet. :)


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Nov 26, 2011 17:26 |  #6

4thed. Off camera "strobist" flash will change your life. And you don't need no stinkin' ETTL for that. You can put together a complete light stand setup - the stand, umbrella bracket, umbrella, flash and trigger set for well under $200 these days. Put your camera in manual, and the flash is always in manual, and you can do wonderful things.




  
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Nov 26, 2011 18:30 |  #7

AzMandella wrote in post #13453622 (external link)
I would look at 420 and 430 EX and EXII's on ebay before buying 3rd party flashes.

Why?




  
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Nov 26, 2011 19:53 |  #8

Wow, I didn't know Yongnuos were so good nowadays. Makes me wanna sell my 580EX if I want to start some multi strobe OCL work xD




  
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Nov 26, 2011 20:17 |  #9

tsong wrote in post #13455499 (external link)
Wow, I didn't know Yongnuos were so good nowadays. Makes me wanna sell my 580EX if I want to start some multi strobe OCL work xD

If money isn't an issue for you and you're absolutely dedicated to photography and doing it for a living, then get whatever gear you want. The OP, though, is a college student and on a limited budget and just wanting to start exploring OCF. There is nothing wrong with the Yongnuos and they will allow him to explore and learn OCF much more than a single $600 580EX II on top of his camera will.




  
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Nov 27, 2011 10:33 |  #10

Brandon72 wrote in post #13455568 (external link)
There is nothing wrong with the Yongnuos and they will allow him to explore and learn OCF much more than a single $600 580EX II on top of his camera will.

Brandon, you need to shop for better prices. You can buy a 580ex II everywhere for less than $450. :)



  
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Nov 27, 2011 10:45 |  #11

Brandon72 wrote in post #13455171 (external link)
Why?

Because I have a hard time believing that Yongnuo can make a flash and sell it for $300+ less and still have the same quality components in it. They both carry a 1 yr warranty but will bet the Canon Flash will far outlive the YN after the 1 yr is up. We will not know this until some of thier flashes start dying after a year or so, if they do. I have had my 580 EX for 4 yrs and banged out a crap l;oad of pics without even a hint of misfire. And of the YMs I have checked out are more bulky and not as well made. It is my own prefernece but I have always felt it is better to go with inovators rather than duplicaters.


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Nov 27, 2011 11:11 |  #12

dedsen wrote in post #13457580 (external link)
Brandon, you need to shop for better prices. You can buy a 580ex II everywhere for less than $450. :)

Not in Canada. And it still isn't for $90. Again, of he can afford that, then great, but some people just want to explore ocf on a very limited uni budget.




  
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Nov 27, 2011 11:19 |  #13

So you were quoting Canadian dollars? Hard to tell since you do not specify or state your location in your profile.
I agree with the Yongnuo flash though. I have one of the YN-560's and it works great. This is a manual only flash but the new YN-565 eTTL unit looks good too.



  
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Nov 27, 2011 11:24 |  #14

OP: also check out a web site called "strobist"

lots of great information there too


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Nov 27, 2011 15:25 |  #15

dedsen wrote in post #13457747 (external link)
So you were quoting Canadian dollars? Hard to tell since you do not specify or state your location in your profile.
I agree with the Yongnuo flash though. I have one of the YN-560's and it works great. This is a manual only flash but the new YN-565 eTTL unit looks good too.

You said anywhere and I was just pointing out that that's not the case. The prices I've mentioned have been USD. Regardless $450 still is not $90. Buy what's in your budget and what will take you furthest. An expensive on camera flash is a more powerful built in flash. Two off cam flashes and two light stands/umbrella and wireless receivers and maybe a softbox for the same price will teach you much more and give you many more options. *shrug*




  
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