I guess if I had a husband/wife team I'd be fine with a 2nd shooter. But honestly, I've really never needed one.
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Nov 25, 2011 13:06 | #32 umphotography wrote in post #13449237 ![]() I dont care what the guys say, and ive been there as well, the brides are more relaxed and comfortable with a woman in that dressing room v/s staging shots with a male photographer present. My wife gets some amazing shots because she is a woman and the girls just relax and be themselves. Girls are running all over the place in their bras,panties and slips, carrying on an having a good time and doing the stuff that girls do,isnt gonna happen with a male photographer in there. Trust me, ive seen some of the stuff that goes on in the photos. a lot of it is never gonna go in an album but the girls love it when the get the proofs back. Mom seeing her daughter put that bridal dress over her head, that first look they get when they see her in the dress, stuff like that while its happening v/s staged.........not gonna happen with a guy in the changng area VERY TRUE !!!!
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Nov 25, 2011 13:16 | #33 Of all the weddings I've shot, maybe 5% of the brides felt uncomfortable with me in the room while they and their bridesmaids were getting ready. This includes all stages of undress. Of course, I never took any pictures of anyone who was 'Rated R' shall we say, but I can't imagine that a female photog in the room would have taken any either. Those brides who felt uncomfortable with me in the room during the changing-of-clothes-process would have felt uncomfortable with anyone in the room. the site
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Gel Goldmember ![]() 1,145 posts Likes: 45 Joined Sep 2009 Location: Brighton , East Sussex More info | Nov 25, 2011 16:41 | #34 Shadow on the Door wrote in post #13443461 ![]() if it's a wedding, you need a 2nd shooter..if it's a big wedding, you need more. Rubbish. Chris Giles Photography
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umphotography grabbing their Johnson ![]() More info | Nov 25, 2011 22:19 | #35 Gel wrote in post #13450653 ![]() Rubbish. It also has to be pointed out that a lot of the time second shooters are partners of the main shooter. Meaning they are more of an assistant because they're not as good as the pro. Couples a lot of the time think that by having two people present taking pictures it's automatically a good thing when it can just be they are getting one pro and a bag carrier. A lot of togs sell that aspect to be more important than it is to nail a commission. For some togs having as assistant is totally justified in the way they work but that's the exception not the rule. GEL Mike
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memoriesoftomorrow Goldmember 3,846 posts Likes: 290 Joined Nov 2010 More info | Nov 25, 2011 22:39 | #36 umphotography wrote in post #13451953 ![]() What happens if you slip and break an ankle. How about food poisoning or a heart attack ? PPA says it happens. Obviously these are extremes. But It does happen and in this sue happy society i think its better to act on the side of caution. I don't know about over in the US but that should be covered by your contracts. Peter
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Jimconnerphoto Goldmember ![]() 2,165 posts Likes: 3 Joined Feb 2008 Location: Southern California More info | Nov 26, 2011 12:10 | #37 I recommend a second shooter if the couple wants getting ready shots of the groom, more journalistic style shots or if we are really pressed for time. Wedding and Portraits www.jimconnerphoto.com
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Nov 26, 2011 22:43 | #39 I have heard of couples try to save money by just using 1 shooter. They don't want to pay extra cost. Canon 1DM4,7D, Rebel XT
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Gel Goldmember ![]() 1,145 posts Likes: 45 Joined Sep 2009 Location: Brighton , East Sussex More info | Nov 27, 2011 02:13 | #40 umphotography wrote in post #13451953 ![]() GEL What happens if you slip and break an ankle. How about food poisoning or a heart attack ? PPA says it happens. Obviously these are extremes. But It does happen and in this sue happy society i think its better to act on the side of caution. We have 2 assistants that we use on big weddings. we offer the clients the option of having one at cost which is $200.00. I pay our assistants a minimum of $250.00 for an 8 hr wedding. costs me 50.00 and duplicate images are easy to throw in the trash can in post. You're right, these are extremes. Worst I had this year was an ear infection which I still worked with. I have a policy that if I can't make a wedding I'll use the full payment received to find another and there is a fairly decent support network amongst togs in case of an emergency. (Considering how many complain about the lack of work). Chris Giles Photography
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cdifoto Don't get pissy with me ![]() 34,090 posts Likes: 43 Joined Dec 2005 More info | Nov 27, 2011 02:32 | #41 $75 might be about right for an assistant, depending on experience and length of the session. An assistant isn't a photographer, so they usually just carry and hold stuff...a relatively easy job. Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here
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Peacefield Goldmember ![]() 4,023 posts Likes: 2 Joined Jul 2008 Location: NJ More info | Nov 27, 2011 05:22 | #42 I'm a big believer in assistants and one is always there (even if there's also a second photographer) and included in my price. The reality is, they're either one of my now adult sons (for whom the business is named; I'm not Robert Wayne), but they're trained, professional, and paid. They help me with anything from carrying and protecting the gear to getting the truck when it's time to change locations. The most important thing they do for me is hold and control off-camera flashes. Robert Wayne Photography
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SchwettyLens Member 197 posts Joined Sep 2010 Location: Golden, Colorado More info | Nov 27, 2011 08:55 | #43 I only want the best for my 2nd shooter. Really, dont just hire someone who is building their portfolio. Actually spend $300+ and get a seasoned photographer whose work you respect. It will make your set a lot better as a whole! This for example are taken at the same time.
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Always interesting to read threads about 1 or 2 photographers for a wedding. Napa Valley Wedding Photography
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siddr20 Goldmember ![]() 2,165 posts Joined Nov 2007 Location: Sydney-Australia More info | Dec 06, 2011 19:06 | #45 Wait till you guys start photographing asian weddings with 400 plus guests. My last indian wedding had 450 guests. My overseas indian wedding I photographed had nearly 650 guests. You will surely need 2 photographers trust me. The main photographer is busy capturing the ceremony which goes for hours sometimes (last wedding was 3), and the 2nd photographer capturing the guests and other things. www.sidd-rishi.com.au
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