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Nov 26, 2011 22:42 |  #1

i have seen other threads like this, but they have too many rules. lets post comparisons between out of camera images compared to your edits.
my first example below shows how the camera cant reveal much information in the shadows. without editing i think its impossible for the camera to get an image like the below edit.. unless i have a dozen or so strobes to even things out. hopefully more of you guys can share some stuff here. thanks

** Edit: out of camera simply means unedited by yourself. It can be the original JPEG your camera pushed out, can be a RAW with picture style intact via canons DPP, a RAW passing through ACR with default presets or anything along those lines.
The after can be whatever the heck you want it to be. If you want to show the power of RAW conversion or show how you can photoshop makeup on someones face or whatever. The idea is to see our editing skills by comparing the before with after.
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IMAGE: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7161/6409209693_3d8ba5084e_z.jpg

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Nov 27, 2011 09:08 |  #2

The OOC version is better, the processed one has lost it's pop. Contrast is flat.


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Nov 27, 2011 09:15 |  #3

The before is better than the after....:eek:


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Nov 27, 2011 10:37 |  #4

haha my editing sux (or i have chosen my jpeg presets well) :). Is there anyone else who would like to show some better examples?


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Nov 27, 2011 11:58 |  #5

Something completely different:
Before:

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO

After:
IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


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Nov 27, 2011 12:37 |  #6

René Damkot wrote in post #13457943 (external link)
Something completely different:
Before:
IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO

After:
IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


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(Most shot by another photographer, edited by me)

Ouch! Really nice job, but I'd be screaming at the other photographer, "Get it right in camera!" But, it helps pay the bills I'm assuming...

Anyways, here's something similar. I love white seamless. Thanks again for you're help in my thread René.

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Redirected to error image by FLICKR

IMG_8927-Edit-2 (external link) by Frank Mendez (external link), on Flickr

I know the main light isn't quite "right" for this subject matter, but I didn't have a person and this was the closest available thing. Maybe a little far on the pp but I'm having fun!:D

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Nov 27, 2011 13:19 |  #7

Mr.Beast wrote in post #13458111 (external link)
I'd be screaming at the other photographer, "Get it right in camera!"

What image are you referring to?

Sometimes you can't (economically) get it right in camera, sometimes you have to "shoot" a product that's not in production yet or at a location that's non existent…


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Nov 27, 2011 14:23 |  #8

René Damkot wrote in post #13458250 (external link)
What image are you referring to?

Sometimes you can't (economically) get it right in camera, sometimes you have to "shoot" a product that's not in production yet or at a location that's non existent…

I just meant you having to mask or whatever technique you used in post. Yeah, I just realized the photographer who shot it could have only had, like, 2 minutes. But I have heard stories. The ones in which the photographer does a not so great job then sends it off to someone else to save it. Probably not exactly the case here, but it was my initial thought.


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Nov 27, 2011 14:44 |  #9

The image I posted here I shot myself, otherwise I wouldn't have posted it, but linked to it ;)

Space was too limited to decently light the background separately without getting too much spill on the models: I was with my back against the wall already…
But yeah, getting it right (or: better) in camera does simplify PP. Then again: This was fairly simple masking.

Side note: In your bottle shot, I think the "after" has too much contrast: The green goes almost black.


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Nov 27, 2011 15:03 |  #10

René Damkot wrote in post #13458616 (external link)
The image I posted here I shot myself, otherwise I wouldn't have posted it, but linked to it ;)

Space was too limited to decently light the background separately without getting too much spill on the models: I was with my back against the wall already…
But yeah, getting it right (or: better) in camera does simplify PP. Then again: This was fairly simple masking.

Side note: In your bottle shot, I think the "after" has too much contrast: The green goes almost black.

Yeah, I read the "most shot by another photographer" part and spoke to soon, disregarding the "post your own photos" policy of the forum. Regardless, very nice job. It may be simple masking for you, but not something I'd be willing to tackle with my current set of "skills". Maybe after spending an indiscernible amount of time staring at photoshops' daunting U.I...

And yep I know that is WAY too much contrast. I think I added 2 contrast layers in photoshop, then pumped the contrast some more in lr3. Eh. I like how it looked yesterday. And just so we're sure, I'd never add that much contrast to a person. I remember my very first batch of images through lr:oops:


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Nov 27, 2011 15:07 |  #11

Rene, top right corner of the laptop is missing!


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Nov 27, 2011 18:03 |  #12

Nothing spectacular going on here, but I love these kinds of threads so I'll contribute:

Before:

IMAGE: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7154/6414821285_c85a5625ea_z.jpg

After:
IMAGE: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7028/6414816375_1672db1e1a_z.jpg

It's just a snapshot I took at an auto show while looking for something orange to take a picture of. Editing was done in Elements 9 -- basically, I just got jiggy with the Shadows/Highlights adjustments and slammed it with some aggressive Unsharp Masking. Fun! And I kinda dig the results too.



  
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Nov 27, 2011 18:05 |  #13

Just to get things straight: this thread is only for images shot/output as jpegs "straight out of the camera", correct?


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Nov 27, 2011 18:38 |  #14

Mr.Beast wrote in post #13458111 (external link)
Ouch! Really nice job, but I'd be screaming at the other photographer, "Get it right in camera!" But, it helps pay the bills I'm assuming...

Anyways, here's something similar. I love white seamless. Thanks again for you're help in my thread René.

IMAGE NOT FOUND
HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'image/gif' | Redirected to error image by FLICKR

IMG_8927-Edit-2 (external link) by Frank Mendez (external link), on Flickr

I know the main light isn't quite "right" for this subject matter, but I didn't have a person and this was the closest available thing. Maybe a little far on the pp but I'm having fun!:D

How do you change the background to look like seamless paper?


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Nov 27, 2011 18:52 |  #15

tonylong wrote in post #13459521 (external link)
Just to get things straight: this thread is only for images shot/output as jpegs "straight out of the camera", correct?

jpeg outputs (or unedited RAW with original jpeg presets) vs edits. The idea is to see our editing skills. Mine are not so good :)


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