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Nov 27, 2011 13:27 |  #31

I guess he really wanted the ambient lighting.




  
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Nov 27, 2011 15:42 |  #32

Fligi7 wrote in post #13458281 (external link)
I guess he really wanted the ambient lighting.

Or depth of field


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Nov 27, 2011 18:48 |  #33

Big K wrote in post #13458859 (external link)
Or depth of field

Correct! [Big K is a master of lighting]

I didn't fear the ISO but I knew that if I screwed up the focus/dof, I'd have a whole batch of compromised photos. The shots were taken at a slam dunk contest that was part of a 3 day high school basketball tournament.

The focus was set up for 42 inches and I wanted to have a large dof to keep the rim (very close) and player all in sharp focus. The images were shot with a 1D Mark III and I had confidence in the camera's ability to provide reasonable IQ at ISO 3200 (using a small aperture to maximize depth of field) with the quality of light available from the strobes (3 Alien Bee B800s) bounced off the white ceiling.


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Nov 27, 2011 18:52 |  #34

That's pretty awesome.
I certainly like the wider angled shots better (18mm and wider), but that's pretty cool too.


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Nov 27, 2011 18:53 |  #35

Zivnuska wrote in post #13459674 (external link)
Correct! [Big K is a master of lighting]

I didn't fear the ISO but I knew that if I screwed up the focus/dof, I'd have a whole batch of compromised photos. The shots were taken at a slam dunk contest that was part of a 3 day high school basketball tournament.

The focus was set up for 42 inches and I wanted to have a large dof to keep the rim (very close) and player all in sharp focus. The images were shot with a 1D Mark III and I had confidence in the camera's ability to provide reasonable IQ at ISO 3200 (using a small aperture to maximize depth of field) with the quality of light available from the strobes (3 Alien Bee B800s) bounced off the white ceiling.


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very nice!

I only have one magic arm, should I be worried?


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Nov 27, 2011 19:03 as a reply to  @ Zivnuska's post |  #36

At ISO 3200, f/8.0 and 42 inches, the dof runs from 31.5 to 63 inches. Fine for what I wanted to shoot. That's what I used.

Suppose I had used ISO 400. Then I would have had to use an aperture of f/2.8

The dof would have been from 37.6 to 47.6 inches. Pretty small for my purposes. Too small.

Depth of field is why I chose to use ISO 3200.


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Nov 27, 2011 19:13 |  #37

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very nice!

I only have magic arm, should I be worried?

Your backboard and rim may be more sturdy than the ones at my local high school. I can tell you that dual arms are far, far, far more sturdy than one arm. For me, if I couldn't use two arms, I wouldn't even try it.

I suggest: clamp and safety cable your camera on a backboard and shoot a few baskets and watch what happens. You might be really surprised on how much stuff moves. Test, test, test before you even think about trying it in a game. You may be a much quicker learner than me. It took me three hours to set up and get squared away my first time.

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Nov 27, 2011 19:16 |  #38

Set up when nobody else needs the court. Take a video with the camera all set up and then start really shaking the hoop and shooting balls at it. See what kind of shake you get.


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Nov 27, 2011 19:18 |  #39

ewheeler20 wrote in post #13459702 (external link)
That's pretty awesome.
I certainly like the wider angled shots better (18mm and wider), but that's pretty cool too.


A wider angle lens would be much better for a game compared to the slam dunk contest that I was shooting. DOF would be different too.

I'm glad I've done it but I have no desire to continue doing it. I'll keep my camera in hand.


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Nov 27, 2011 21:44 as a reply to  @ Zivnuska's post |  #40

I might talk to one of coaches and see if I can come during a practice. I only had enough cash for one arm. My next paycheck should be in december and around the 20th...

Hope things go well =)


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