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Should I consider Sigma over Canon ?

 
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Nov 27, 2011 12:14 |  #31

Angry Dad wrote in post #13456507 (external link)
Why not buy Sigma?
Remember, there are many "L" snob's out there that will scream bloody murder if they ever had to use another off brand. In all reality, there are tons of good lens' out there from many companies not named Canon.

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Nov 27, 2011 12:33 |  #32

Angry Dad wrote in post #13457628 (external link)
Not sure what you mean by a wannabe? A wannabe what? Snob?.

I don't think I am snob, but I do want quality and it would be a shame to buy a lens that you may be dissatisfied with later. It is an important investment, why not by the best you can afford.

Angry Dad wrote in post #13457628 (external link)
... I've found numerous gem's not named Canon. ....

Yes there are some, they are called Zeiss. :p

Angry Dad wrote in post #13457628 (external link)
My "Snob" comment is to notify the OP that some people ( you fit the profile well) will blast any 3rd party lens no matter how good it may be without giving it a try.

You don't know me so saying I fit the profile is absurd. Maybe you are trying to justify your decision making; I don't know nor care. I am blasting Sigma because I have had problems with two out of two lenses; that is pretty bad. There have been enough comments regarding Sigma lenses in this thread besides mine that should alert 'clc2112' and other readers to make a cautious decision. I am sure he is going to make the best decision for himself.


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Nov 27, 2011 12:37 |  #33

Sp1207 wrote in post #13457810 (external link)
There's two version of the Canon 70-200/2.8 IS. The first one is inferior to the Sigma OS in every way, while the newer one is significantly more expensive but has benefits including weathersealing and better corners.

do you guys shoot action? This is where usually sigma glass falls short when shooting in AI servo mode. Now with newer 120-300mm f2.8 OS they seem to have improved things. I guess same is true of newer 70-200mm f2.8 OS II. Would love to hear some opinions and nice if someone got pictures to share.


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Nov 27, 2011 17:08 |  #34

bobbyz wrote in post #13458112 (external link)
do you guys shoot action? This is where usually sigma glass falls short when shooting in AI servo mode.

Action pictures from a Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 II lens and a Canon 60D set in AI Servo autofocus.

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Focal Length: 154.0mm
Aperture: f/2.8
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Focal Length: 86.0mm
Aperture: f/4.0
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Focal Length: 70.0mm
Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Time: 0.0020 s (1/500)
ISO equiv: 6400
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB

Seems to work.



  
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Nov 27, 2011 17:12 |  #35

rick_reno wrote in post #13456117 (external link)
I tried Sigma once (3 times for the same lens). Didn't work out, I won't be back.

Same, but I up your 3 to 6.

Sigma has known focus issues. Stick to Canon. IQ is so close between the comparable lenses, except you can zero out the "gamble" of auto focus with the Canon lineup.




  
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Nov 27, 2011 17:16 |  #36

DC Fan wrote in post #13459255 (external link)
Action pictures from a Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 II lens and a Canon 60D set in AI Servo autofocus.

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Focal Length: 154.0mm
Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Time: 0.0020 s (1/500)
ISO equiv: 3200
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB



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| Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Focal Length: 86.0mm
Aperture: f/4.0
Exposure Time: 0.0020 s (1/500)
ISO equiv: 6400
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB



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| Byte size: ZERO | Content warning: NOT AN IMAGE


Focal Length: 70.0mm
Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Time: 0.0020 s (1/500)
ISO equiv: 6400
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB


Seems to work.

Nice shots. Mind if I ask what kind of keeper rate. Say you shoot 10 shots in sequence how many in focus? This is where my sigms 120-300mm f2.8 non OS used to fail.


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Nov 27, 2011 20:37 |  #37

One more thing to consider......Canon's warranty for their L glass is only 12 months. Sigma's EX glass is 4 years.


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Nov 27, 2011 21:10 as a reply to  @ kfreels's post |  #38

My experience with Sigma is mixed. I had a 12-24 that was an enormously useful lens for me despite some softness in the extreme corners. It was well made and really did all that one could ask.
I recently acquired a 50 1.4 for available light wedding work after trying three Canon 50 1.4s and being disappointed by all of them. The Sigma is beautifully made and is very sharp with great bokeh. My complaint is the hit and miss aspect of it's focus. In low light my 24-105 beats it every time and even in medium light it can miss the focus. Overall, I am beginning to wonder if I will ever find a 50 that can give me sharp images reliably.

I am going to sell the Sigma and go for the Canon 35 2.0




  
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Nov 27, 2011 21:35 |  #39

As a new owner of the Sigma 17-50, I say consider Sigma for sure. The performance difference does not seem to justify the cost difference, at least in this case.




  
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Nov 27, 2011 22:04 |  #40

Angry Dad wrote in post #13456507 (external link)
Why not buy Sigma?
Remember, there are many "L" snob's out there that will scream bloody murder if they ever had to use another off brand. In all reality, there are tons of good lens' out there from many companies not named Canon.



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Nov 27, 2011 23:09 as a reply to  @ Roy Webber's post |  #41

Sigma 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 OS lens. This image has not been edited.

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Nov 27, 2011 23:12 |  #42
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Unregistered.Coward wrote in post #13455110 (external link)
The Sigma 24 f/1.8 Macro is a worthy consideration.

strongly disagree


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Nov 28, 2011 02:23 |  #43

I've got in the past a Sigma 10-20mm on a crop camera and now have the Sigma 70mm macro. Very satisfied with both lenses. But I would not consider them as an alternative to "L" lenses, more to "consumer" Canon lenses.

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Nov 28, 2011 02:27 |  #44

clc2112 wrote in post #13454587 (external link)
OK. To preface this question, I am not, nor will I ever be a professional. I enjoy photography as well as photography equipment. Given two similar lenses, it might be difficult for me to catch the small subtle diffs. Again, I enjoy the equipment as a hobby in itself.

I have the 28 -70 and 16 - 35 and below are my "wish" list lenses in order of planned aquisition.

100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM
70-200mm f/2.8L IS II Usm
50mm f/1.2L USM
14mm f/2.8L II USM
24mm f/1.4L II USM
35mm f/1.4L USM
8-15mm f/4Fisheye USM


The question is, should I research Sigma lenses at any place in my wish list line-up? I.E. is it common knowledge that a given Sigma lens exceeds Canon in any of my desired lenses?

Thanks.

The one word answer is YES!

Sigma 105 OS
Sigma 70-200 f2.8 OS
Sigma 50mm 1.4
Sigma doesn't really make any thing comparable to the 14mm, 24mm, and 35mm L lenses in terms of aperture and IQ, but these are top notch lenses. Sigma makes some decent stuff in the range if you are willing to make some sacrifices.
As for the fisheye, Sigma makes lots of em and they are pretty good! They make two for APS-C and two that fit APS-C and FF. I liked the Sigma 15mm fisheye more than the now discontinued Canon one.


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Nov 28, 2011 02:55 as a reply to  @ themadman's post |  #45

All my lenses are Sigma. I buy them for quality and price as well as other factors like the MFD and aperture on the 17-70.

For my budget they are really the only options and I am yet to be disappointed and not surprised by how good they are.

Frankly I can't see why I would spend the extra money...


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