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Nov 25, 2011 15:06 |  #31

:-) I'm very pleased with it so far. I have now completed the upper plate which has worked very well, providing support for the foot of my 70-200 and 100-400 lens. I'll post a picture tomorrow.

The cutting was quite reasonable as it was a guy I use to use years ago to cut armour, glass and many other things. This was also helped as I produced all the drawings so he only had to convert the drawing file.

I am pondering putting some C brackets on eBay as they might be of interest to those who already have clamp blocks, this is assuming people are willing to drill a mounting hole as these will differ from syste
To system. I anticipate a pair of brackets would be around half the price of the full C brackets available. The nice thing about the flat plates is you can locate them as per the photo or split them to make a cage. I put my brackets in front of the camera so I could still use to fold out screen but for a 5 or 7D it would be good to put one in front and one behind.

While the spacer plates are great for those who want to use the Manfrotto quick release some drilling and tapping is necessary to mount the clamps. I could do it as a complete unit but the price might be prohibitive as the small quantities would mean each one would be made to order.


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Nov 26, 2011 04:24 |  #32

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The upper plate. Cutting out the recess was and absolute so 'n so. I don't want to do that again any time soon.

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Nov 26, 2011 10:36 |  #33

Pretty cool John, that foot holder is a great idea. And it looks like it was kind of hard to create.

Excellent work overall. Well of course my rail system and FF didn't arrive yesterday. :(


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Nov 27, 2011 01:34 |  #34

wow John that is awesome! really great idea there and way to do it "DIY" even though this is professional IMO.

way to go.


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Nov 27, 2011 11:30 |  #35

Well thanks to the US Postal Service and that they still deliver on Saturday's, I got my rail and follow focus system. Stills to follow. I'll have to bust out my 40D to shoot that!

Next to arrive is the heavy tripod that I ordered!


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Nov 27, 2011 16:46 |  #36

Thanks for the kind words chaps. I'm very pleased with it......except.....I was trying out some of the different configurations with a pair of C brackets and thought I would see what it would look like with a C bracket and an O bracket. (See top right) This was a bad thing to do as I want to make an O bracket now as well. :-)

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I really like the semi cage option (top left) for cameras without an articulated screen as I think this is a much nicer solution that the box affairs.......Damn I'd so like to be able to charge what they do as well.

Glad your bits turned up Chas. Photographs of progress are obligatory you know. :-)

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Nov 27, 2011 23:05 |  #37

Finally some pictures of the new rig.

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So far I am very happy with this rig. The follow focus works very smoothly once I tightened all the hex head screws that hold it together. They became loose in shipping. Now that everything is tight and working perfectly this rig will be the base and foundation for future expansion.

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Nov 28, 2011 01:54 |  #38

Cool. Nice pictures and always interesting to see proprietary solutions.

I am a little surprised by the camera/tripod bracket as I would have thought there would be a tendency for movement with the leverage of the rails. Is there enough room to turn it round as then the weight of the camera would be one side and the lens the other?


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Nov 28, 2011 10:35 |  #39

BTW, loving the dead cat. :-)


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Nov 28, 2011 12:39 |  #40

So the bracket that attaches the camera has all sorts of moving bits. the wedge plate slides backwards and forwards and is locked in place via the large, round, blue knob on the right hand side. There is a lot of throw forward and back. Then there is the up and down movement option via the rear blue lever. I have it set to it's lowest position at the moment. With this lens (Canon 24-70L, "The Brick") this set up is a bit front heavy. I'm sure I can rig this to have a better center balance. But at the moment all I have for a tripod is a silly, way to light, basic tripod. I'm hoping the new heavy tripod gets here today!

Also, all those blue knobs and levers are aluminium and not plastic. Something that I wanted. I saw some rigs that were cheaper, but had plastic knobs and I'm sure their longevity would be a concern.

And the rails are threaded on the inside, meaning that they can be lengthened if need be. Now I just need to find the rest of the bits that were designed for this set up.

Man, you don't miss much! That "dead cat" is a product called "Under Covers." They are designed to be used over Lav type mics in high wind situations. They come in white, black and a medium grey. The base of the it is a sticky, double sided tape that holds the mic on one side and then the sonically transparent fuzzy sticks over the top of the mic and to the rest of the sticky around the edges of the mic. The other side of the sticky gets applied to the clothing, lapel, coat or where ever it wants to be stuck. I love using them for ski shoots and sticking the mic to a black part of the jacket, fully exposed. Black on Black is a great look and even though we are shooting in HD, the cameras usually can never see the mic unless you go looking for it. Then I use a small piece of tape to hold the cable around the back side of the zipper and it looks great! I just cut the center part out of one of the round stickies and then trimmed down one of the fuzzy parts (gave it a bit of a hair cut) and stuck it over the built in mic. It works perfectly and knocks the wind noise down on that mic.


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Nov 28, 2011 17:00 |  #41

chas can i ask how much you paid for your rail system minus the followfocus?


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Nov 28, 2011 17:06 |  #42

Sure, I got it from Amazon and the whole kit cost me $259 as it was on sale before Thanksgiving. It's now back up to $295.

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But they do sell the rail system sepperately without the FF for $155.

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Nov 29, 2011 17:15 |  #43

And my tripod came today! YEAH!

My biggest issue is that I am recovering from hernia surgery and I can't really play with this stuff too much. :(

But the tripod is really nice. Metal and heavy in the parts that need to be wel built, the quick release plate has a wonderful little catch on it to keep the camera from accidentally sliding off the tripod if the tightening knob isn't fully turned in. I now have one more spot to adjust front to back wieght distrubution so that the head doesn't have to be tightened down so hard to just hold it all in place.
The head is very, very smooth and easily adjustable. It pans and tilts wonderfully! The little bit that I've gotten to play with it has left nothing but smiles on my face!

And best of all, the camera is on a solid base that doesn't feel like any light breeze will tip the whole rig over. :)


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Nov 29, 2011 18:29 |  #44

Great stuff. Always good to hear about people getting pleasure from their new toys. In this day and age so many things are moaned about as not being exactly what we wanted.

The head arrangement sounds very similar to my Manfrotto which I am equally pleased with.

I had a new toy arrive today as well - a dead cat for my Tascam DR05. Unfortunately that does come under the heading "It's alright but...". It is a little fury bag, as you would expect, but the seams run across the faces of the two microphones. This is down to cheap construction in my mind as it could have had seams else where. Still, it does a job after a fashion .


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Nov 29, 2011 22:51 |  #45

John, just be careful with that seam on the mics. It could cause a scratching sound on the mics if it gets moved about while recording. It probably won't happen too often, but if the wind is strong enough you could get a slight shift in the dead cat and then the scratching happens. Just listen closely the first couple times you use it.

I did play with the centering of my camera and that mounting foot for the rails. The one lens that gives me trouble is my 24-70L. You know, "The Brick." It's a heavy lens that causes all sorts of balance issues, but it is adjustable.


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