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Nov 28, 2011 16:32 as a reply to  @ post 13463993 |  #5311

One of the seniors We photographed this season that's going to help out with this project. I used Camerons technique for the skin and redid it with Potrait professional with onOne. Very hard to tell any difference

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Nov 28, 2011 18:53 |  #5312

Here are a few for a senior from this past season. Let me know what you think.

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Nov 28, 2011 18:54 |  #5313

A few more

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Nov 28, 2011 20:48 |  #5314
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Great job Dave. What was your lighting setup in the first picture?


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Nov 28, 2011 21:10 |  #5315

Dave I like the last one.


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Nov 28, 2011 21:13 |  #5316

umphotography wrote in post #13463993 (external link)
Short answer-- No-- with lightroom its applied to everything. With PS you layer it in and brush it where you want it

The video link is Cameron rads technique and its modified a bit. Its been posted in this thread before.

Here is my .02 cents on this as well as other techniques that have been posted. Find something you like and stick with it. master it and get fast at it because when you start doing a lot of seniors your not gonna want to sit in front of that monitor and spend 20 minutes processing and smoothing skin. Especially this glam style smoothing that has been posted. Way toooo many zits at this stage of the game for a lot of HS girls. Sure there are some that have great skin like the model in this video, but few and far between 17 yr old HS girls. Spend 10 minutes moving skin around with the patch tool, 20 minutes smoothing the skin,5 more on the eyes,,, at all ads up.

Time is money and this technique really digs into your time. I use onOne for my skin and perfect portrait pro for HS seniors. Tiffany uses portraiture. Yup, its quick and easy and does a nice job. Is camerons technique any better ? Yup, absolutely. Does cameron photograph 30,40,50 HS seniors during a 6 month period? Nope, not even close to that.

I love this technique, but i use it more for models where Im going to pic out 4-5 shots out of 300 for their portfolio and develop them. That technique works until you get busy.

I'm in the process of developing a commercial site for some modeling work that i want to do with some agencies. Guarantee you i will use this technique when getting the final shots up and ready to go. But thats 20-30 models for a commercial site that's going to take the next 4-5 months to develop. Big difference.


Yes it does take longer than using Portraiture. I have that as well and actually used it before I did Cameron's technique. I was lucky with this girl, I think she had two zits I had to worry about and that was it.




  
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Nov 28, 2011 22:59 |  #5317

Dave, I like that first one (grasping the football with two hands) a lot. Very nice! The other sports shots are good as well, but I really like the first one. On the second image, there are a couple of blemishes on his forehead, and the right side of his face (image left) seems a little over exposed. Together, these two things make my eye wander around the image and miss his eyes...


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Nov 29, 2011 18:47 |  #5318

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Denny MFG has a great special right now for solid color freedom cloth backdrops. I just ordered Brilliant red,,,,,10x20 for $89.00:cool:

8x10's or 10x8's are $69.00-- Great for headshots and 3/4 shots

cool prices. I would look at the samples with the models in the shots. Some of the colors dont photograph as shown. Thats probaly why they did that. Light grey photographs TAN,,,,,YUK:cry:

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Nov 29, 2011 22:49 |  #5319

man watced that video finally, guy must have too much free time if after doing it bunch of times it still takes 30min per shot. Not worth you unless I am getting paid atleast $500 for that shot. And if I was shooting fashion models as well get some model with nice skin. Watched Mathew Jordan smith a month back and he said he does very little pp, get it right in the camera. Just my opinion.


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Nov 30, 2011 00:05 |  #5320

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One of the seniors We photographed this season that's going to help out with this project. I used Camerons technique for the skin and redid it with Potrait professional with onOne. Very hard to tell any difference

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Beautiful photo, but I don't like the skin processing. It looks blotchy, as if an amateur tried to do it.


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Beautiful photo, but I don't like the skin processing. It looks blotchy, as if an amateur tried to do it.

She has very poor blotchy skin, complicated by trips to a tanning salon, complicated by recovering from substance abuse,, that's why it looks the way it does. i tried it 4 different ways.


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Nov 30, 2011 10:33 |  #5322

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Beautiful photo, but I don't like the skin processing. It looks blotchy, as if an amateur tried to do it.

umphotography wrote in post #13473380 (external link)
She has very poor blotchy skin, complicated by trips to a tanning salon, complicated by recovering from substance abuse,, that's why it looks the way it does. i tried it 4 different ways.

Wow, I actually thought the skin looked pretty good, although a bit smoother than my taste would be, eyes are beautifully done. The thing I noticed was the hand, looks like it was burned, maybe slightly too much. Overall, I like the image very much.


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Nov 30, 2011 11:23 |  #5323

locky wrote in post #13465762 (external link)
Great job Dave. What was your lighting setup in the first picture?

Agreed, very nice work Dave.


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Nov 30, 2011 12:50 |  #5324

I just realized I posted SOOC pictures except for the last one. The outdoors one has some color adjustment and contrast bump but thats it. Here is the edited version of the first pic.

Not a huge difference, but only took 3 min in photoshop. Makes it a bit more edgy. Family ordered this in a 30x40 :)

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Nov 30, 2011 13:22 |  #5325

Muskydave22 wrote in post #13474591 (external link)
I just realized I posted SOOC pictures except for the last one. The outdoors one has some color adjustment and contrast bump but thats it. Here is the edited version of the first pic.

Not a huge difference, but only took 3 min in photoshop. Makes it a bit more edgy. Family ordered this in a 30x40 :)

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I REALLY like this shot, but it appears that in your final processing you may have got the acne(?) on his face (specifically his forehead) way too sharp. I would fix that, as it will be VERY obvious in such a large print.


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