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7d vs. 1dmkIII Autofocus

 
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Nov 29, 2011 05:51 |  #16

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I switched from 7D to 1DMKIII. MKIII has 7D beat just about every place you can think of. Couple of advantages that Team mentions but the MarkIII is deadly accurate, has more focal points and if you use read the manual and try to learn as much about these custom functions and more importantly, when to use them and change them around for different circumstances, my opinion is that it leave the 7D in the Rear view mirror. Best decision we made was jumping on a 1 series and dropping the 7D. Liked the 7D, love the Mark3.



Here is what I did with my 7D.


I sought out those who have used it successfully in different venues.

The guys who used it for Auto Racing with excellent results.

The guys who used it for Birds In Flight with excellent results.

The guys who used it for Portrait work with excellent results.

I asked them all about the various settings they used and came up with a cheat sheet of sorts. I put those setting for the three main areas in C1, C2, C3 and I love my 7D.

I have been extremely happy with the 7D .... even happier with it than with my 5D2. I still do not know why I bought that 5D2. :confused:




  
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Nov 29, 2011 08:59 |  #17

http://blogs.stonestep​s.ca/showpost.aspx?pid​=54 (external link) is a very interesting read about 7D focus points. It explains the AF errors some users complain about.


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Nov 29, 2011 09:00 |  #18

harcosparky wrote in post #13467340 (external link)
Here is what I did with my 7D.


I sought out those who have used it successfully in different venues.

The guys who used it for Auto Racing with excellent results.

The guys who used it for Birds In Flight with excellent results.

The guys who used it for Portrait work with excellent results.

I asked them all about the various settings they used and came up with a cheat sheet of sorts. I put those setting for the three main areas in C1, C2, C3 and I love my 7D.

I have been extremely happy with the 7D .... even happier with it than with my 5D2. I still do not know why I bought that 5D2. :confused:

They nerfed the Autofocus on the 5d2 I guess in order to make it an affordable full frame camera I suppose. I wish it had the autofocus of the 7d but then I suppose that is slightly what the 1dmkIV or III is for.




  
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Nov 29, 2011 09:01 |  #19

hollis_f wrote in post #13467304 (external link)
At least swallows and dragonflies swoop around in daylight. This was my best result from attempting BiF where the B stands for 'bats'.

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Great Shot sir!

There are nocturnal birds that only start flying just before dusk. So very similar situation to this.




  
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Nov 29, 2011 09:03 |  #20

TeamSpeed wrote in post #13465844 (external link)
I don't know, dragonflies are tough too... I almost gave up on them and went back to swallows. :)

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Good job! Thank-you for posting the full frame and then the full crop! Well done! Hey lets take it a step further, perhaps the pinnacle of in flight photography are hover flies. :lol:




  
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Nov 29, 2011 09:04 |  #21

citro wrote in post #13467930 (external link)
http://blogs.stonestep​s.ca/showpost.aspx?pid​=54 (external link) is a very interesting read about 7D focus points. It explains the AF errors some users complain about.

Will definitely study that! Thank-you so much for the link!




  
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Nov 29, 2011 09:18 |  #22

harcosparky wrote in post #13467340 (external link)
Here is what I did with my 7D.


I sought out those who have used it successfully in different venues.

The guys who used it for Auto Racing with excellent results.

The guys who used it for Birds In Flight with excellent results.

The guys who used it for Portrait work with excellent results.

I asked them all about the various settings they used and came up with a cheat sheet of sorts. I put those setting for the three main areas in C1, C2, C3 and I love my 7D.

I have been extremely happy with the 7D .... even happier with it than with my 5D2. I still do not know why I bought that 5D2. :confused:

Dont read me wrong. I liked the 7D. I understand how its AF system worked and miss some things about it on the Mark111. Biggest thing for me was the 1.6 format and having to use EFs lens that didnt work on our 5D's. we decided to go all full frame and sold the 7D to get the mark111. Once you learn how to use the features on a Mark111 its a better system over all than what the 7D offers. some of the stuff on the 7D, like spot AF, Zone and the tracking system work awesome, other stuff not so well. I found the auto features basically useless on the 7D. Like i said, over all, mark111 is a superior system at jsut about every single step.

Want to set up your 7Ds' right..here ya go

http://www.deepgreenph​otography.com …ing-up-your-new-canon-7d/ (external link)

http://www.garyluhm.ne​t/bio/tips_0310.html (external link)

http://www.learn.usa.c​anon.com …_news_eos7d_art​icle.shtml (external link)

http://www.learn.usa.c​anon.com …ls/eos_7d_tutor​ials.shtml (external link)

There is a lot more information out there if you need it. Like i indicated i am very familiar with the 7D system. Mark111 is better by a lot plus you don't have to use Efs glass. However, i really miss that 10-22 on a 7D. Nothing better on the market than that combo for wide angle work. I liked it better than a 16-35 on a 5D2. Did not like a 7D for portrait work. The 5D2 blows a 7D away for portraiture and wedding use.


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Nov 29, 2011 13:10 |  #23

citro wrote in post #13467930 (external link)
http://blogs.stonestep​s.ca/showpost.aspx?pid​=54 (external link) is a very interesting read about 7D focus points. It explains the AF errors some users complain about.

That's interesting but not unexpected, I assume that is why the spot focus mode is provided.


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Nov 29, 2011 13:13 |  #24

umphotography wrote in post #13464779 (external link)
I switched from 7D to 1DMKIII. MKIII has 7D beat just about every place you can think of. Couple of advantages that Team mentions but the MarkIII is deadly accurate, has more focal points and if you use read the manual and try to learn as much about these custom functions and more importantly, when to use them and change them around for different circumstances, my opinion is that it leave the 7D in the Rear view mirror. Best decision we made was jumping on a 1 series and dropping the 7D. Liked the 7D, love the Mark3.

Just a quick clarification, more focus points, yes. But the same number of cross type focus points.


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Nov 29, 2011 13:17 |  #25

So which auto feature(s) on 1D III that work all the time or useful ?.

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I found the auto features basically useless on the 7D.


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Nov 29, 2011 13:23 |  #26

Care to explain ?. More focus points don't mean jack. You might know the 7D articles do you really really know how to use it ?. Yes, I'm in the mood to argue with anybody about AF.

umphotography wrote in post #13468019 (external link)
Like i said, over all, mark111 is a superior system at jsut about every single step.


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Nov 29, 2011 13:57 |  #27

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Care to explain ?. More focus points don't mean jack. You might know the 7D articles do you really really know how to use it ?. Yes, I'm in the mood to argue with anybody about AF.

Which AF system is better - the 7D or the D700?


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Nov 29, 2011 14:10 |  #28

harcosparky wrote in post #13467340 (external link)
Here is what I did with my 7D.


I sought out those who have used it successfully in different venues.

The guys who used it for Auto Racing with excellent results.

The guys who used it for Birds In Flight with excellent results.

The guys who used it for Portrait work with excellent results.

I asked them all about the various settings they used and came up with a cheat sheet of sorts. I put those setting for the three main areas in C1, C2, C3 and I love my 7D.

I have been extremely happy with the 7D .... even happier with it than with my 5D2. I still do not know why I bought that 5D2. :confused:


Hi - care to share your C1, C2, C3 (I assume Racing, BiF, and Portrait)?

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Nov 29, 2011 14:15 |  #29

^ 7D's AF system is more robust than any Nikon compact dslr atm. The amount of AF customizations are really great to those that spent the time in getting to know them.

I've not used the 1d3 so cannot comment on its AF prowess. I did have a 1d2n and I find for my style of photography, I cannot discern any differences b/t it and the 7D. Both are far more responsive and accurate than the 5d and 30d before it.

If all you care about is the AF which is very important, I think both cameras will do very well. But a camera is often a sum of its parts. For sheer versatility, from Flash commander (aka CLS) to hdslr to detail images.... the 7D > 1d3. It is practically a mini 1d4 in a compact dslr format. I do find that having a good quality lens is important enhance these camera's AF abilities. Using a kit lens or some base model glass will hamper AF accuracy.


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Nov 29, 2011 14:16 |  #30

Good question. The D700 and generally Nikon Pro AF has a very simplistic setup that works right out of the box unlike Canon camera(s) that have multiple AF modes, not to mention configurations, etc. The Canons usually fast in locking the focus but not very good at holding the focus (mostly in low light servo), the Nikons is the other way around, slow acquisition but once it locks it holds like glue.

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Which AF system is better - the 7D or the D700?


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