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Another website question.Prophoto4, zenfolio, smumug or ...?Which shall I choose?

 
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Dec 02, 2011 08:23 |  #16

ProPhot 4 no doubt!




  
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Dec 04, 2011 00:32 |  #17

aIpha wrote in post #13477864 (external link)
Your site is setup a little different. You have your TLD hosted at WiredTree running wordpress then you have a subdomain pointed to SmugMug to take advantage of their photo gallery. Or at least that is what it looks like.

That is accurate. The subdomain was customized to look like the Wordpress portions. I did it myself and did not need to pay a designer or get an approved design.




  
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Dec 04, 2011 11:59 |  #18

I've been with smugmug for three years and am in te process of switching to Zenfolio. I really like the UI and customization better. And it's cheaper!


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Dec 12, 2011 12:18 |  #19

I use Prophoto with Wordpress on Bluehost and Smugmug as my proofing gallery and checkout. I highly recommend Prophoto.

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Dec 30, 2011 07:08 |  #20

travsirocz wrote in post #13532518 (external link)
I use Prophoto with Wordpress on Bluehost and Smugmug as my proofing gallery and checkout. I highly recommend Prophoto.

http://www.dewitzphoto​graphy.com (external link)

dude.. nice site.. i like how it all streams together... i would not have known you had all that going on.... really nice...


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Dec 30, 2011 10:18 |  #21

travsirocz wrote in post #13532518 (external link)
I use Prophoto with Wordpress on Bluehost and Smugmug as my proofing gallery and checkout. I highly recommend Prophoto.

http://www.dewitzphoto​graphy.com (external link)

Very nice!

Big fan of sites like this where the photos just pops out at you and information/prices are well organized. Didn't take me long to find some prices for your service. If I were a client that is one of the top things I'd want to see. I don't like sites that say "call us for prices".


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Dec 30, 2011 15:59 |  #22

Profoto offers a ton more customization, but with a ton of extra expense and a huge gap that still needs filled. Zenfolio and Smugmug allow for client ordering and access pages that are seamless and you can pick the prices and products available. You also have a ton more backend support and ease of use is unequaled. I think you will find that at somepoint you almost need both.

Personally I went the build my own site approach and could never get a result that I liked, then I tried to build a site with zenfolio as it's backend, but that failed, and now I am just using zen + a blog. Works well, but sure I would love to be able to do layouts like profoto offers, but I wouldn't give up all the free money I get from print ordering from family members and friends of my clients.


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Dec 30, 2011 16:16 |  #23

I had close to zero experience with HTML/CSS when I upgraded to a Smugmug Power User account, but the folks on DGrin and the Smugmug customization examples were pretty helpful. Mines not very unique, but for a non-pro site I'm happy with the result:

http://bobanderson.smu​gmug.com/ (external link)

Now I just have to take better photos :)

Also, I'd recommend avoiding the use of Flash for your site.


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Jan 04, 2012 12:27 |  #24

I use all of them :)

prophoto4: http://torontophotogra​pher.net (external link) - My blog
zenfolio: http://clients.toronto​photographer.net (external link) - I use it for client proofing
smugmug: http://rhommelphotogra​phy.net (external link) - I don't even use this anymore.. more of a storage for me :)

IMHO, if you want to do a bit of SEO, then I would suggest on using prophoto (it's more expensive, but worth it, i think)


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Jan 05, 2012 12:51 |  #25

travsirocz wrote in post #13532518 (external link)
I use Prophoto with Wordpress on Bluehost and Smugmug as my proofing gallery and checkout. I highly recommend Prophoto.

http://www.dewitzphoto​graphy.com (external link)

the dogs on your site are beautiful; so photogenic!




  
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Jan 05, 2012 12:56 |  #26

rhommel wrote in post #13645699 (external link)
I use all of them :)

prophoto4: http://torontophotogra​pher.net (external link) - My blog
zenfolio: http://clients.toronto​photographer.net (external link) - I use it for client proofing
smugmug: http://rhommelphotogra​phy.net (external link) - I don't even use this anymore.. more of a storage for me :)

IMHO, if you want to do a bit of SEO, then I would suggest on using prophoto (it's more expensive, but worth it, i think)

the wedding photo on the beach is sexy! nice.




  
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Jan 05, 2012 13:04 |  #27

Smugmug:

Pros:

Good customization.
Fairly good forum support.
Does what it claims to do.

Cons:

No printing facilities outside the US.
Won't let you change the emoticon to your own branding.
Insist on their footer on the bottom of your page.
Very poor customer service when dealing with individual problems:

I had a log in page for a client gallery that had some really messy html around it. Nothing I could change, a fault on Smugmugs end.

When I reported it, first they insisted it was a "browser issue".

Then as I pushed it, they realised that was not the case.

They then insisted that they were going to fix it "when they had time" as they had a backlog (two weeks was the estimate if memory serves).

I explained I had a corporate client using that page the next day, but that didn't seem to concern them.

It was only when I mentioned the fact that I "wouldn't be able to recommend smugmug on certain forums" that they did anything.

I think they have issues with customer service overload at times.

That was the impression I got anyway.

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Conclusion:

Great product, support a little sketchy at times.


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Jan 05, 2012 13:11 |  #28

new girl on the bloc wrote in post #13651869 (external link)
the wedding photo on the beach is sexy! nice.

thanks! :)


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Jan 05, 2012 13:15 |  #29

mtimber wrote in post #13651912 (external link)
Smugmug:

Pros:

Good customization.
Fairly good forum support.
Does what it claims to do.

Cons:

No printing facilities outside the US.
Won't let you change the emoticon to your own branding.
Insist on their footer on the bottom of your page.
Very poor customer service when dealing with individual problems:

I had a log in page for a client gallery that had some really messy html around it. Nothing I could change, a fault on Smugmugs end.

When I reported it, first they insisted it was a "browser issue".

Then as I pushed it, they realised that was not the case.

They then insisted that they were going to fix it "when they had time" as they had a backlog (two weeks was the estimate if memory serves).

I explained I had a corporate client using that page the next day, but that didn't seem to concern them.

It was only when I mentioned the fact that I "wouldn't be able to recommend smugmug on certain forums" that they did anything.

I think they have issues with customer service overload at times.

That was the impression I got anyway.

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Conclusion:

Great product, support a little sketchy at times.

thanks for the review. sounds like i can scratch them off my list. their logo is a real turnoff too.




  
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Jan 05, 2012 13:32 as a reply to  @ new girl on the bloc's post |  #30

Here's my actual review, since I currently use all of them. I posted this on another forum

What are you going to use your website for?

- Photo Dump
- Portfolio Site
- Client Proofing
- Photo Blogging

Prophoto4
Just a note that google/search engines generally LOVE wordpress, this is your best bet if you want to do some SEO
Con: Expensive
Pros: Easily customizable, their tutorials are really good, support is also good

I have to say the Zenfolio and Smugmug are both good for either dumping your photos, or for client proofing... However:

Support - SmugMug: Champion of Customer Service
Community - SmugMug: Smugmug has dgrin.com which is VERY active
Name - Zenfolio: More professional sounding than SMUG
Admin - Zenfolio: Simpler Dashboard, Ajax technology
Themes - Zenfolio: More up to date elegant themes, Smugmug got stuck in the early 2000s

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: NOT FOUND | MIME changed to 'text/html'

Customization - Smugmug: Almost EVERYTHING is customazible
Pricing - Zenfolio: Cheaper
Custom permalinks - Zenfolio: Customazible permalinks. SEO Friendly

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