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Setting Up a Small In-Home Studio on a Large Budget

 
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Dec 07, 2011 19:53 |  #241

khanley wrote in post #13509919 (external link)
thanks for the idea, will check on it after dinner.


Ok Kevin, here are some pics for you...

Magic arm clamped to Long Wall Mount Boom (I wouldn't do this normally)

Holds fine

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Close up of clamp, if you did these things and you still have slippage at the stud connection, something must be wrong with your clamp
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6" Extension arm for superclamp from earlier link, also holds fine
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Pull back shot for above images
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Dec 07, 2011 20:07 |  #242

As, so those screws have heads and you use washers with them to mount booms to Superclamps!


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Dec 07, 2011 20:14 |  #243

DwightMcCann wrote in post #13511027 (external link)
As, so those screws have heads and you use washers with them to mount booms to Superclamps!

Yep, hold tight for two seconds, I have closeups for you...


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Dec 07, 2011 20:21 |  #244

Ok Dwight, here you go...

As I mentioned on this thread or the other one, I use the Impact Clamps because of the low profile handles so I can use them closer to the wall and still be able to tighten them, and price, and I like them fine. Keep in mind that with these booms, you want to be able to rotate the entire mount around the post to get best positioning. The Manfrotto handles hit the wall as soon as you rotate the mount closer to the wall. With these Impact clamps, you do need washers to fill the extra space because the holes are not quite as deep. With the manfrotto clamps, no washers are needed. My washers are too big, btw, I'll fix that later.

Again, the screws are 5mm x 16mm long, hex drive, and you'll need two per clamp, four per boom. These are basically the same screws that they include with Expan paper system to secure the paper hanging brackets.

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Dec 07, 2011 20:29 as a reply to  @ Dave Jr's post |  #245

I got a rma to return the magic arms and ordered the 6" extension arms.

No idea why a got arms that won't hold, need some manfrotto viagra for the magic arms.


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Dec 07, 2011 20:31 |  #246

khanley wrote in post #13511117 (external link)
I got a rma to return the magic arms and ordered the 6" extension arms.

No idea why a got arms that won't hold, need some manfrotto viagra for the magic arms.


Ok, I thought you were saying it was slipping at the stud clamp? The only thing with those extension arms is, it is difficult to get exact angles. A ball joint on top would be really nice.


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Dec 07, 2011 20:51 |  #247

Thank you, Dave! When my stuff gets here I'll traipse off the get the screws/washers!


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Dec 07, 2011 21:11 as a reply to  @ DwightMcCann's post |  #248

I think I found my problem, It looks like the one I tested did not seat well on the flat area of the stud attached to the ball on the ion the magic arm.

I wish it hat a hex end and socket to seat the stud in position.

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Dec 09, 2011 16:27 as a reply to  @ khanley's post |  #249

I guess by monday or tuesday I need to decide if I'm keeping the magic arms or just keep the extensions.

Always nice to have options,

thanks to everyone posting the photos and help.

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Dec 12, 2011 15:50 |  #250

khanley wrote in post #13511117 (external link)
I got a rma to return the magic arms and ordered the 6" extension arms.

No idea why a got arms that won't hold, need some manfrotto viagra for the magic arms.

If your magic arms were turning in the superclamp (torquing), I can believe it. The studs on the end of the magic arms are not hex shaped like the extension arms are. The only other thing you can do is to make sure the set screw is tightened against the flat surface. But in extreme situations, you might still get some torque.

(edit) I didn't read through all the post before I replied - but it seems you figured out. BTW - I have both (Magic Arms and the extensions)!
There are always uses for them - e.g., if you need to hold a foam-core flag in a particular position, the magic arms with super clamps are more than adequate and you can adjust them really easily.


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Dec 12, 2011 15:55 |  #251

The thing I don't like about the 6" extension arms is, they are only square one way to the superclamp (can't remember which way that was). So, if used in any other position, they are cock-eyed to one side or the other.


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Dec 12, 2011 16:01 as a reply to  @ Dave Jr's post |  #252

after all the good info I found here I kept the magic arms and refused the extension arms shipment.

I spend way too much money with B/H to feel guilty about it.

Hopefully will get some good lighting training at the boudoir workshop next month.

After that just have to find some people to shoot.

Thanks again for all the good info.

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Dec 12, 2011 16:04 as a reply to  @ post 3272448 |  #253

what a great studio......and the girls you get to shoot............nice

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Dec 12, 2011 16:28 |  #254

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what a great studio......and the girls you get to shoot............nice

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these guys in the band?

That is a long, long defunct band, sigh. I got involved with several bands along the way and have come to realize that hobby bands are just a pain in the ass and don't give payback! I never ever got one of those personal concerts that were promised. Anyway, the only bands I shoot now are 'Pay up front!'


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Dec 12, 2011 17:18 |  #255

Dave Jr wrote in post #13533788 (external link)
The thing I don't like about the 6" extension arms is, they are only square one way to the superclamp (can't remember which way that was). So, if used in any other position, they are cock-eyed to one side or the other.

I've had OK luck with using a Lite-Tite (Manfrotto 026) on the extension arm. You are still limited in the swivel directions but it can usually be swivelled to a position that works. I think the double ball joint that you posted a picture of would work pretty well too, I'll try that one of these days.

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after all the good info I found here I kept the magic arms and refused the extension arms shipment.

I spend way too much money with B/H to feel guilty about it.

Like I said, I would have kept both of them! Different tools for different jobs... Jus' sayin'


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