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FOr those getting a 1Dx, moving from the 24-70 to the 24-105?

 
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Dec 12, 2011 12:00 |  #16

Even on the 7D the 24-105 was a much better lens for me over the 24-70. They both pale in comparison to my primes.




  
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Dec 12, 2011 12:02 |  #17

Why would you give back your ISO gain, by switching to slower lenses and shooting a higher ISO? Might as well save the $7k and keep what you have.


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Dec 12, 2011 12:22 |  #18

It's just one stop and your gaining with the IS.




  
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Dec 12, 2011 12:24 |  #19

tkbslc wrote in post #13532453 (external link)
Why would you give back your ISO gain, by switching to slower lenses and shooting a higher ISO? Might as well save the $7k and keep what you have.

what he would gain is extra reach, weight reduction of the lens, and IS to go from 24-70 to 24-105. He lose absolutely nothing since the better ISO from the 1DX make up for it. You don't buy a full frame camera with pro grade AF system just to get higher ISO alone, there are many improvement that I'm sure the OP would find useful by going to 1DX.


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Dec 12, 2011 12:30 |  #20

Gel wrote in post #13530929 (external link)
Just a thought.

Almost all of my work is weddings and when choosing what lenses to use I nearly always go for the fastest I can, be they primes or zooms.

With the 1Dx being so much better in ISO performance the 1 stop speed advantage of a 24-70 doesn't 'seem' to warrant using it when you compare it to a 24-105.

With the extra reach, IS, reduced weight in it's favour is it something you've considered yet?

For me the plane of focus on the 2.8 is nice but a lot of the time impractical when shooting a couple at an angle when F4 would be more suited.

what camera are you currently shooting with?
(and keep in mind the two stops better only refers to jpg performance due to better NR in cam, the actual true increase might not even be a stop for all we know, for DR it could improve 2 stops and maybe banding could be reduced 2 stops, but that remains to be seen, but for say middle gray SNR, not likely by any means, sensors are already awfully efficient)

and you can always use more speed




  
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Dec 12, 2011 12:38 |  #21

ben805 wrote in post #13532540 (external link)
what he would gain is extra reach, weight reduction of the lens, and IS to go from 24-70 to 24-105. He lose absolutely nothing since the better ISO from the 1DX make up for it.

That's a lot of money for IS and 30mm of reach.

You don't buy a full frame camera with pro grade AF system just to get higher ISO alone, there are many improvement that I'm sure the OP would find useful by going to 1DX.

Most people considering the 1Dx would already have a 1-series body.


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Dec 12, 2011 13:01 |  #22

tkbslc wrote in post #13532627 (external link)
That's a lot of money for IS and 30mm of reach.

Most people considering the 1Dx would already have a 1-series body.


According to whom? LMAO


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Dec 12, 2011 13:02 |  #23

ben805 wrote in post #13532743 (external link)
According to whom? LMAO

Uh, me? :)


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Dec 12, 2011 13:04 |  #24

tkbslc wrote in post #13532627 (external link)
That's a lot of money for IS and 30mm of reach.

Most people considering the 1Dx would already have a 1-series body.

Even amongst 1series users that are still -some- upgrades.

Dual joysticks, customizable buttons and ethernet amongst a few.

Also mind you, this is an upgrade to the 1dsIII which is quite old, and actually lacks alot of things the 1d4 has, so when you compared 1dx > 1ds III you will see even more upgrades. Though canon still has that other 1series prototype looking thingy they only revealed slightly, alongside the C300, that one was said to emphasize video but it might as well have a high MP n ISO to take over the 5d2's line of video and studio in one swoop.


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Dec 12, 2011 13:46 |  #25

The IS and higher iso would definitely work better for me if i had the 1dx. I know the 24-70 has it's advantage of f/2.8, but IS is really invaluable.

only reason why I'm not using the 24-105 is that the 5d2 has banding issues when shooting at high isos so the extra stop is critical especially since the files in post processing have less room for error. the 1dx on the other hand would probably have much more room for error: under/over exposure.


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Dec 12, 2011 14:18 |  #26

yea, and the OP already said this:

Gel wrote in post #13530929 (external link)
For me the plane of focus on the 2.8 is nice but a lot of the time impractical when shooting a couple at an angle when F4 would be more suited.

When you aim to use the lens mostly at f/4.0 and smaller aperture then the only advantage you have from the 24-70 became....ahem.....irr​elevant. :)


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Dec 12, 2011 22:15 |  #27

wombatHorror wrote in post #13532581 (external link)
what camera are you currently shooting with?
(and keep in mind the two stops better only refers to jpg performance due to better NR in cam, the actual true increase might not even be a stop for all we know, for DR it could improve 2 stops and maybe banding could be reduced 2 stops, but that remains to be seen, but for say middle gray SNR, not likely by any means, sensors are already awfully efficient)

and you can always use more speed

If I recall he's armed with a 1Ds III, 1D IV, and 5D MK II. Wedding photogs always have a ton of backups. ;)




  
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Dec 13, 2011 02:59 |  #28

Correct Jdizzle, 5D2, 1Ds3, 1D4

I only really use the 1Ds3, don't like the other two so for me the 1Dx is a mighty big jump with room to play with seeing as I get by at ISO3200

If it was a straight and easy answer for me I wouldn't be asking for opinions on here ;)


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