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Dec 13, 2011 17:38 |  #106

LowriderS10 wrote in post #13540027 (external link)
You do realize that you just compared the world's worst mass murderers, the people who put millions of people in ovens, gas chambers and concentration camps to people who want to protect children from smoke-related illnesses. Who's truly silly here?

I don't think he was referring to the **** Germany fascist. Just like when you call people Grammar ****'s. I did some work for you, and found the third definition of fascism from the World English Dictionary.

fascism (ˈfæʃɪzəm)

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1. any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism; any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism
2. any ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc, that may be characterized as right-wing, chauvinist, authoritarian, etc
3. prejudice in relation to the subject specified: body fascism

P.S. Wondering why the name for the german nationalist party of the 1940s is censored.




  
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Dec 13, 2011 18:01 |  #107

LowriderS10 wrote in post #13540027 (external link)
You do realize that you just compared the world's worst mass murderers, the people who put millions of people in ovens, gas chambers and concentration camps to people who want to protect children from smoke-related illnesses. Who's truly silly here?

That is a step too far.

You should really look at pure meaning of the word fascist. He used it correctly. The ****s were certainly fascist, but not all fascists are ****s. You brought **** into this (without actually using the word), he did not. What does that tells us about you? You mischaracterized the context in which he was using the word to further your own agenda. Dare I say it? Nah, I let you think about it. You seem particularly single minded and rather self centered.


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Dec 13, 2011 18:08 |  #108

LowriderS10 wrote in post #13540027 (external link)
Who's truly silly here?

Er, the person who thinks that Fascist = ****

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Hmmmm, interesting. The forum software censors the normal 4-letter short version of "member of the National Socialist Party". But at least it's not stupid enough to think that it's synonymous with "fascist".


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Dec 13, 2011 18:50 |  #109

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Regardless of whether smoke is harmful to people or not (I have read evidence that strongly points to it being harmful, but I really couldn't be bothered to look up and supply the links now) - I dislike smokers. They will say they are merely exercising their right to enjoy a habit. A consequence of that habit to me is that MY clothes, hair and skin are contaminated by smoke. It smells very unpleasant - and happens without my consent.

I have a habit too - coffee. What would a smoker say if I splashed coffee from my cup over his clothes - and when I had finished I urinated over him? If that kind of behavior is acceptable to smokers, then they may smoke all they like around me, and I'll accept the consequences of their habit. But they'd better be prepared to take the consequences of MY habit as well! Fair is fair. Or are they too 'paranoid'?

And the argument of 'But diesel trucks also produce smoke!' is totally groundless - as if two wrongs make everything alright!



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Dec 13, 2011 18:53 |  #110

Bannor wrote in post #13531082 (external link)
Regardless of whether smoke is harmful to people or not (I have read evidence that strongly points to it being harmful, but I really couldn't be bothered to look up and supply the links now) - I dislike smokers. They will say they are merely exercising their right to enjoy a habit. A consequence of that habit to me is that MY clothes, hair and skin are contaminated by smoke. It smells very unpleasant - and happens without my consent.

I have a habit too - coffee. What would a smoker say if I splashed coffee from my cup over his clothes - and when I had finished I urinated over him? If that kind of behavior is acceptable to smokers, then they may smoke all they like around me, and I'll accept the consequences of their habit. But they'd better be prepared to take the consequences of MY habit as well! Fair is fair. Or are they too 'paranoid'?

And the argument of 'But diesel trucks also produce smoke!' is totally groundless - as if two wrongs make everything alright!

When smoking, a smoker usually inhales the smoke, than exhales. That is how smoking works. Last time I drank coffee, I don't remember walking around and spilling it. If someone is allowed to smoke in a given area, but you don't like the smoke, go somewhere else where someone isn't smoking.




  
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Dec 13, 2011 19:00 |  #111

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You're right. A person with asthma for whom second-hand smoke means the difference between a happy, active life and wheezing for his next breath advocating smoking bans is absurd...

Which has what, exactly, to do with property rights? Nothing, just yet another attempt to put up a sappy emotion-charged strawman argument. Hence, an absurd post.


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Dec 13, 2011 19:04 |  #112

To all you who ran to Google to set me straight, we all know that the people who use "fascist" use it because of its connotation to what happened in the 1930s and 1940s...let's get real here.


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Dec 13, 2011 19:05 |  #113

Anyways...there are too many people splitting hairs and bringing up silly, pointless arguments here...I've made my points and stand by them...I'm outtiez...have fun :)


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Dec 13, 2011 19:32 |  #114

LowriderS10 wrote in post #13540586 (external link)
To all you who ran to Google to set me straight, we all know that the people who use "fascist" use it because of its connotation to what happened in the 1930s and 1940s...let's get real here.

Nice try, but not so much... You're caught out and back pedlin fast.


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Dec 13, 2011 19:46 |  #115

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Anyways...there are too many people splitting hairs and bringing up silly, pointless arguments here...I've made my points and stand by them...I'm outtiez...have fun :)

So, give up, huh? Bye.


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Dec 14, 2011 03:38 |  #116

LowriderS10 wrote in post #13540586 (external link)
To all you who ran to Google to set me straight, we all know that the people who use "fascist" use it because of its connotation to what happened in the 1930s and 1940s...let's get real here.

So, you're not satisfied with trying to impose upon me your beliefs about what I can do with my body? You always want to impose your beliefs about what my thoughts mean! Now that sounds like 1984.


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Dec 15, 2011 07:10 |  #117

I found what I need to take my camera around where people are smoking cigarettes.
There is NO WAY I would use this to take my camera in a pool or the beach but I feel it would be adequate to protect against cigarette smoke..

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Dec 15, 2011 08:26 |  #118
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so..you're actually ****ing serious?

Wow..I was really hoping this was a troll thread, you might as well just go live in a plastic bubble.


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Dec 15, 2011 09:09 |  #119

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I found what I need to take my camera around where people are smoking cigarettes.
There is NO WAY I would use this to take my camera in a pool or the beach but I feel it would be adequate to protect against cigarette smoke..

Aargh! Surely you cannot be serious! Do you know how much phthalate plasticiser something like that is going to exude? Not only will it coat the electronics of your camera, but it is also suspected of oestrogenic properties!


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Dec 15, 2011 10:39 |  #120

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Aargh! Surely you cannot be serious! Do you know how much phthalate plasticiser something like that is going to exude? Not only will it coat the electronics of your camera, but it is also suspected of oestrogenic properties!

I was just gonna say that.:rolleyes:


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