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Another Canon 5dmkII body or 85L?

 
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Dec 22, 2011 17:19 |  #1
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Can't make up my mind. Already have a 5dmkII and two legendary 24-70L and a 70-200L IS II.
I'm a weddig photographer and I tend to find swapping lenses a bit annoying. I'm looking to fund a Prime 85mm but then again, I have a thought of adding another 5dmkII.... Any suggestion?


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Dec 22, 2011 17:21 |  #2

? Pro without a backup body ???


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Dec 22, 2011 17:23 |  #3
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I have a backup body :) its my assistants 60D (we ALWAYS have it with us) But I hate it & barely use it!


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Dec 22, 2011 17:28 as a reply to  @ iLvision's post |  #4

Why not a 5D ii and a Sigma 85?

If that's not possible then I'd get another body in your situation


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Dec 22, 2011 17:28 |  #5

2nd body.

As soon as I can swing a 2nd, I'm going to just so I don't have to swap lenses all the dang time.


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Dec 22, 2011 17:31 as a reply to  @ iLvision's post |  #6

Go for the 85L all the way :D
And upload some beautiful shoots to sham prosumer, whom only know / talk about bokeh but nothing else ;)


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Dec 22, 2011 18:21 |  #7

You have a backup, grab the 85L

Every time you use it though, an angel will get punched. It's the trade off with using that lens when it takes such good images.


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Dec 22, 2011 18:28 |  #8

2nd body. Then you can use the 24-70 and 70-200 back to back much easier and faster.

One other thing I'd look at is review your shots and try and decide at what focal length you really could use a faster aperture than f/2.8. At one time I owned 35mm, 50mm, 85mm and 135mm primes. What I found was that the wider the lens (within this range) the more likely I was to want to use an aperture faster than f/2.8. So I found 35mm and 50mm to be the best place for me to have primes.


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Dec 22, 2011 18:36 as a reply to  @ JeffreyG's post |  #9

^Jeffrey is not big fan of 85L, but 50L :lol::lol::lol:


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Dec 22, 2011 18:44 |  #10

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^Jeffrey is not big fan of 85L, but 50L :lol::lol::lol:

Well, I owned the 85L II for about 2.5 years and I loved the lens. It's a very good one.

When I first got it I was still in my 'Holy Crap! Shallow DOF is so cool!" phase and so I shot it wide open. After a year I finally got over that.

Once I started thinking a little bit about DOF, blur and composition I naturally started stopping down more when framing tighter. And so I found myself rarely using the 85L and 135L wide open because I typically used these longer focal lengths when framing more tightly.

So for me, the 85L was redundant with the 70-200/2.8.

If you are the kind of person that likes to use very long working distances (like more than 20 feet from the subject) while maintaining a very strong background blur, then the 85L is a killer tool for this.

But you gotta be careful to not walk to 'normal' portrait range of 12-15 feet, frame up a tight 85mm f/1.2 shot and think you will have enough DOF. You won't.

And while a lot of photographers will excuse totally smeared noses and ears because we lust for thin DOF, a lot of paying clients won't like it. I've heard (believe me, I've heard!) that some of my friends and relatives are not keen on this look.;)


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Dec 22, 2011 18:51 |  #11
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JeffreyG wrote in post #13587029 (external link)
Well, I owned the 85L II for about 2.5 years and I loved the lens. It's a very good one.

When I first got it I was still in my 'Holy Crap! Shallow DOF is so cool!" phase and so I shot it wide open. After a year I finally got over that.

Once I started thinking a little bit about DOF, blur and composition I naturally started stopping down more when framing tighter. And so I found myself rarely using the 85L and 135L wide open because I typically used these longer focal lengths when framing more tightly.

So for me, the 85L was redundant with the 70-200/2.8.

If you are the kind of person that likes to use very long working distances (like more than 20 feet from the subject) while maintaining a very strong background blur, then the 85L is a killer tool for this.

But you gotta be careful to not walk to 'normal' portrait range of 12-15 feet, frame up a tight 85mm f/1.2 shot and think you will have enough DOF. You won't.

And while a lot of photographers will excuse totally smeared noses and ears because we lust for thin DOF, a lot of paying clients won't like it. I've heard (believe me, I've heard!) that some of my friends and relatives are not keen on this look.;)

Ah. Thanks for the response. What would you suggest, have the 70-200L II for portraiture over the 85L or get another body and glue the 85L to it?


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Dec 22, 2011 18:55 |  #12

JeffreyG wrote in post #13587029 (external link)
...And while a lot of photographers will excuse totally smeared noses and ears because we lust for thin DOF, a lot of paying clients won't like it.

Well say!

Pro need a right tool for the jobs!!


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Dec 22, 2011 18:57 |  #13

iluxa007 wrote in post #13586747 (external link)
...I tend to find swapping lenses a bit annoying...

Then why would you want a prime?


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Dec 22, 2011 19:05 |  #14
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timnosenzo wrote in post #13587089 (external link)
Then why would you want a prime?

Beauty requires sacrifice :)


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Dec 22, 2011 19:13 |  #15

The 85L is a legend, you should get it. It's the only lens I've had strangers comment "Nice lens".




  
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