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Dec 27, 2011 07:57 |  #1

I found a lot of my images being used without my prior consent. The offenders do, however, link it back to my Flickr though.

Still, i don't think it's appropriate for them to use it without my permission.

What do you think?

Example: the leaf insect, image #13 on this page:

http://www.ibda3world.com …ند-الحيوانات/ (external link)


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Dec 27, 2011 08:04 |  #2

At least they acknowledge the original source..
I would call this the side-effect of posting one's photos online.




  
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Dec 27, 2011 14:28 |  #3

I would call it free advertising (for you) but they should ask permission but usually do not.

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Dec 28, 2011 00:02 |  #4

According to the law, using with no permission is steeling.
That is why having your own website and watermark your pictures is very important.
And beside that also a strong Disclaimer, Terms and Conditions.




  
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Dec 28, 2011 00:27 |  #5

If they link back to me, I consider it borrowing.


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Dec 28, 2011 06:36 as a reply to  @ cdifoto's post |  #6

Thanks for your comments everyone :)

I think Flickr is to blame. Why on earth would Flickr let anyone other than the original poster grab the BBCode or HTML codes?


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Dec 28, 2011 07:10 |  #7

Hi Kurt.
I think it's nice that your image demonstrates natural camouflage very well, but they should have asked for your permission before using the image.




  
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Dec 28, 2011 07:21 |  #8

LordV wrote in post #13605702 (external link)
I would call it free advertising (for you) but they should ask permission but usually do not.

Brian V.

I tend to agree with Brian here. Just because we have the internet doesn't mean that common courtesy should go out the window ;).

Anything that drives more traffic and readership to my blog, website or online galleries is welcome. Many times people will ask permission to link to my images and I've never refused. I also do the same. Now, if they totally "lifted" the image without my permission that would be a different story - copyright infringement.


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Dec 28, 2011 09:32 |  #9

orionmystery wrote in post #13608935 (external link)
I think Flickr is to blame. Why on earth would Flickr let anyone other than the original poster grab the BBCode or HTML codes?

This is known as promotional advertising. The only problem... it is for Flickr. Not the users. Plus... you gave them the rights to be able to do this by uploading to their servers. Its in the TOS and ULA


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Dec 28, 2011 09:42 as a reply to  @ Mark1's post |  #10

Thanks for the input/comments.

I think i'll either stop my flickr subscription or set all my images as invisible.


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Dec 28, 2011 09:46 |  #11

No need to stop. Just start watermarking what you put there. Most people can appreciate a good image even with the watermark. But the water mark will limit who will "borrow" an image, and thoes that still do... well the image it self will tell who it belongs to.


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Dec 28, 2011 09:59 |  #12

Ronny Geenen wrote in post #13608244 (external link)
According to the law, using with no permission is steeling.
That is why having your own website and watermark your pictures is very important.
And beside that also a strong Disclaimer, Terms and Conditions.

With all due respect, I don't think that these strategies are practical.

  • Once you put an image on the Internet, it's open season on it. And you're the only one enforcing the law. Exactly how much time do you have?
  • Stuff can be stolen off your own web site as easily as anywhere else.
  • Watermarking disfigures the image, which goes against the very reason you posted it: to be admired.
  • Strong disclaimer, terms, and conditions. Really, that'll work.
The most serious loss is if somebody steals your image to make money or win awards. The best way to reduce that likelihood is to post low resolution images. I've had my images appear on other people's web sites. It's free publicity for me. Get used to it. Otherwise you're playing a game of whack-a-mole with a million moles.

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Dec 29, 2011 01:39 |  #13

orionmystery wrote in post #13609545 (external link)
Thanks for the input/comments.

I think i'll either stop my flickr subscription or set all my images as invisible.

Kurt- think you will be shooting yourself in the foot if you do either of these.
As Joe says above it's just the penalty of operating on the web. I only post low res images to Flickr and only tend to chase image theft if the photographs are being represented as someone else's work.

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Dec 29, 2011 01:49 |  #14

Ronny Geenen wrote in post #13608244 (external link)
According to the law, using with no permission is steeling.
That is why having your own website and watermark your pictures is very important.
And beside that also a strong Disclaimer, Terms and Conditions.

Neither the OP nor the website is in the USA.

I have no idea what the law says in Malaysia, and regardless it may be impossible to enforce.


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Dec 29, 2011 12:57 |  #15

S.Horton wrote in post #13613702 (external link)
Neither the OP nor the website is in the USA.

I have no idea what the law says in Malaysia, and regardless it may be impossible to enforce.

With a pro account... I believe.... you can replace an image and keep the links the same. I have heard stories of people swapping the images to rather offensive images. So all of a sudden the "borrowers" have this bad things all over thier blog.


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