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Dec 28, 2011 16:29 |  #1

Got this for xmas and just got done setting it up and printed my first photo and the skin tones are kinda orangish looking, its way different than what I am seeing on the screen. I just calibrated my screen with the SPYDER3 too. Any suggestions?


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Dec 28, 2011 16:41 |  #2

Are you using the correct profile for your paper? That'll make all the difference.




  
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Dec 28, 2011 17:37 |  #3

Ok I'm a noob. How and where do I check for the profile. I have been looking all over. When I click on print I don't get a profile to check.


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Dec 28, 2011 18:02 |  #4

ok this is what I see but I can find it in the printer settings:

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how do i enable to color management in my printer?

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Dec 28, 2011 18:04 |  #5

Had this problem with one photo the skins had way to much magenta. It happened because i let Photoshop handle the printing. Took the target image below printed two variations letting the printer and photoshop handle the printing for each one. Found that it's easier to just let the printer manage things. I would bet you are making this same mistake that or as said you might not be using the correct paper profile or used non Canon paper. I tried Epson paper with Canon profile and needless to say the results were terrible.

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Dec 28, 2011 18:10 |  #6

Supersteve911 wrote in post #13611941 (external link)
how do i enable to color management in my printer?

Should be in the printing options for the software you use.




  
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Dec 28, 2011 18:37 |  #7

I just picked up a 9500 MKII and have read that you DO NOT want to let the printer control the color.


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Dec 28, 2011 19:13 |  #8

Supersteve911 wrote in post #13611941 (external link)
ok this is what I see but I can find it in the printer settings:
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how do i enable to color management in my printer?

This shows that the printer is set up to manage colors.

So, something to check is if your editing software is also trying to manage colors. What app are you using? If both the app and the printer are trying to manage colors you will have problems.

So, you will need to choose one or the other approach. Since your monitor has been calibrating, it makes sense to have your app manage the colors if it is color-managed. Photoshop, Lightroom, Digital Photo Professional, and I'd imagine PS Elements can manage your print colors. Turn off the printer managing (the dialog you showed gives you the option). Try out having your software manage, then turn it off and turn the printer managing back on to see the difference.

But first, your print driver will have a Paper section where you choose your paper type. If you got Canon paper with your printer, the specific paper type should show up in a drop-down list. I don't have your printer so don't know specifics, but the printer driver should have installed a set of paper profiles. They should show up in the drop-down list in the driver. If your editing app is able to manage your colors, they should also show up in a list in your app. Choose the right paper, both in the print driver and in your app when you have it manage the color!


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Dec 28, 2011 19:29 |  #9

JonK wrote in post #13612078 (external link)
I just picked up a 9500 MKII and have read that you DO NOT want to let the printer control the color.

I can find plenty of posts by others who had the same magenta color cast problem. I don't know where you read this but i'm speaking from my own trial and error with the 9000 MKII. If letting Photoshop handle things works for you that's great but in my case and for many others it did not work so well.

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http://forums.dpreview​.com …age=33479447&ch​angemode=1 (external link)
https://discussions.ap​ple.com …/2208660?start=​0&tstart=0 (external link)
https://discussions.ap​ple.com …/2257437?start=​0&tstart=0 (external link)




  
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Dec 28, 2011 19:30 |  #10

isoMorphic wrote in post #13612277 (external link)
I can find plenty of posts by others who had the same magenta color cast problem. I don't know where you read this but i'm speaking from my own trial and error with the 9000 MKII. If letting Photoshop handle things works for you that's great but in my case and for many others it did not work so well.

http://www.fredmiranda​.com/forum/topic/96635​7 (external link)
http://forums.dpreview​.com …age=33479447&ch​angemode=1 (external link)
https://discussions.ap​ple.com …/2208660?start=​0&tstart=0 (external link)
https://discussions.ap​ple.com …/2257437?start=​0&tstart=0 (external link)

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Dec 28, 2011 19:30 |  #11

Supersteve911 wrote in post #13611941 (external link)
ok this is what I see but I can find it in the printer settings:

how do i enable to color management in my printer?

You're using Aperture, right? It should look like this.


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Dec 28, 2011 19:54 |  #12

What a lot of people forget to do is to assign the correct color profile to the image they are working on before sending it to print. These profiles come from the paper manufacturer. Then if using Photoshop, under the Print dialog window > Color Management > Color Handling > Select "Photoshop Manages Color". Make sure the Printer Profile is selected. Relative Colorimetric with Black Point Comp selected. If you miss any of these steps you will most likely have color shifts.

If you are going for true color correction, you have to let the working program manage the color, otherwise you risk color shifts when the printer color management tries to interpret what the working program is saying. Sometimes its ok, other times it way off.


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Dec 28, 2011 19:57 |  #13

Do you always pick Relative Colorimetric? I have noticed that Relative provides more accurate appearance but not sure "when" to pick "what".

I've calibrated my monitor with Spyder 3 Elite and am printing on Canon Semi-Gloss through a 9500 MKII with Relative Colorimetric selected and am getting good results! Obviously not 100% matched to a digital display, but very accurate and vibrant.


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Dec 28, 2011 20:07 |  #14

JonK wrote in post #13612407 (external link)
Do you always pick Relative Colorimetric? I have noticed that Relative provides more accurate appearance but not sure "when" to pick "what".

I've calibrated my monitor with Spyder 3 Elite and am printing on Canon Semi-Gloss through a 9500 MKII with Relative Colorimetric selected and am getting good results! Obviously not 100% matched to a digital display, but very accurate and vibrant.

I do. I use Ilford paper in my 9500 MKII and they recommend Relative Colorimetric. I am calibrated using Huey Pro which isn't the best, but my colors are spot on every time to my monitor. What I see in PS, is what I see on print. I am printing on Ilford Smooth Pearl and I use the Pro Platinum Color Profile.


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Dec 29, 2011 05:09 |  #15

Yes I use Aperture 3 but am slowly moving over to PS E 10. When I installed the software for the pro9000 it came with Easy photoprint EX. When I use that software my pictures come out stunning and spot on! The problem is the program doesn't recognize Aperture itself so I have export the photos to the desktop and print from there. I tell ya I printed some stuff up last night and it was like I ordered it from a lab. This printer is awesome. But when I print right from Aperture or PS E 10 I get bad color casts or like my first post stated the tones are way off. Right now I am using up some HP Photo Paper and like I said if I print from the pro9000 software its great but anything else its not.
I would like to just print from my editing programs but I haven't figured out how to


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