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Dec 27, 2011 01:44 |  #5221

I would still stick w/ the 1/FL rule. Some may even go as far as 1/(FL * crop factor). I only dip down below that when it's absolutely necessary. Yes, IS is great but why let it be a crutch.

That said, stationary subjects + good technique, @ 400mm, you can probably get away with good keeper rates at 1/100s. But if the subject moves and or you've got a bad caffeine tic... good luck.


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Dec 27, 2011 08:27 |  #5222

bad69maro wrote in post #13603418 (external link)
I plan on going back out to Estas Park this weekend, hopefully see some good wildlife out there. But in the mean time I like to hear what everyone has to say so I can have a starting point. Sorry tonylong, not that I want exact setting just a simple starting point and what everyone else uses to achieve some good pics.

To be honest, start out in Tv mode shooting 1/800 or faster. Once you master getting sharp images with that setting, start reducing your shutter speed until you find the slowest shutter you can use. The is system helps, but only for about 2 stops at most in my experience. As stated, you should let the is spin up for a second before snapping a pic. I would recommend that anyway if you are tracking in Ai servo to improve camera tracking and keeper rate.


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Dec 27, 2011 09:30 |  #5223

Awesome Jase, thats kinda what I was looking for :-) not specific just a good starting spot.
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Dec 27, 2011 21:45 |  #5224

bad69maro wrote in post #13604500 (external link)
Awesome Jase, thats kinda what I was looking for :-) not specific just a good starting spot.
thanks everyone

Those photos were shot at 1/30 and 1/80. This is way to long unless you have a lot of experience. At that shutter speed the animal will cause blur by just twitching the nose or an eye.

Try 1/FL, bump up ISO to get at least 1/640 or faster at 400mm and see what you can get away with lowering the speed. Panning a race car at 400mm with 1/100s and shooting a cat or a bird with the same FL and shutter speed will give you a counter intuitive result. Race car - perfect. Cat or bird - most likely rubbish.

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Dec 27, 2011 22:55 |  #5225

I'm gonna try it this weekend, hopefully there will be some wildlife out for me to experiment with :)) thank you guys So much for the guidance :))




  
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Dec 28, 2011 00:58 |  #5226

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Dec 28, 2011 10:28 |  #5227

And a wild one:

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Dec 28, 2011 21:32 |  #5228

I just recieved my lens today. Can't wait to get out and try it.


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Dec 29, 2011 01:30 |  #5229

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Dec 29, 2011 01:54 |  #5230

That Jupiter shot is SWEET!




  
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Dec 29, 2011 02:05 |  #5231

DragonSpeed wrote in post #13613720 (external link)
That Jupiter shot is SWEET!

No kidding. Very, very impressive.


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Dec 29, 2011 02:19 |  #5232

DragonSpeed wrote in post #13613720 (external link)
That Jupiter shot is SWEET!

krb wrote in post #13613752 (external link)
No kidding. Very, very impressive.

Thanks.

I just need to find myself a 1200mm/5.6 lens to make it just a little bit nicer. But I can't seem to win the d@mn lottery. :lol:


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Dec 29, 2011 04:00 |  #5233

That is an excellent shot!!

I tried it once and got a few moons, but no detail on the big one. Over exposed big time. I then tried it again the second night and did the same thing!! :o

anyway here's the one I did. Not seeing double, just showing the difference over a 24 hour period. Top one first night,lower second night.



jwcdds did you use a converter on those? And have you had a go at Saturn with this lens? a couple of months and it will be up a bit earlier than the wee hours it is now, and the angle looks good too with the rings on a nice angle relative to us.


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Dec 29, 2011 09:28 |  #5234

pixelbasher wrote in post #13613945 (external link)
That is an excellent shot!!

I tried it once and got a few moons, but no detail on the big one. Over exposed big time. I then tried it again the second night and did the same thing!! :o

anyway here's the one I did. Not seeing double, just showing the difference over a 24 hour period. Top one first night,lower second night.



jwcdds did you use a converter on those? And have you had a go at Saturn with this lens? a couple of months and it will be up a bit earlier than the wee hours it is now, and the angle looks good too with the rings on a nice angle relative to us.

Thanks. :lol:

I hope you (and everyone else) know/knew that the Jupiter photo I posted was a composite. Two different exposures, one for the planet and the 2nd for the moons. I know of no other ways around that, at least with my equipment. :)

As for Saturn... I haven't tried with my lens. If Jupiter is already looking this small... I fear Saturn's going to look mighty tiny. Though I'd love to be able to see/capture its rings. I'll have to look into that and see what time Saturn makes its appearance.


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Dec 29, 2011 09:35 |  #5235

jwcdds wrote in post #13614719 (external link)
Thanks. :lol:

I hope you (and everyone else) know/knew that the Jupiter photo I posted was a composite. Two different exposures, one for the planet and the 2nd for the moons. I know of no other ways around that, at least with my equipment. :)

As for Saturn... I haven't tried with my lens. If Jupiter is already looking this small... I fear Saturn's going to look mighty tiny. Though I'd love to be able to see/capture its rings. I'll have to look into that and see what time Saturn makes its appearance.

So, the specs of:

Exposure Time = 1/100"
F Number = F5.6
Exposure Program = Manual
ISO Speed Ratings = 3200

are for which exposure, and what are the specs for the other one?




  
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